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I was thinking about this, it seems reasonable that 5 over 4 shows this hand, since it doesn't leave room for any other strains. But if the minors were reversed, would you still bid the same way and bid 5 over 4? That sure sounds like both minors.

 

Anyway, the idea of making a negative double with only one suit that I actually want to ever play in makes me uneasy, but I guess it will work fine on this hand.

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1 - (3) - x - (P)

4 - (P) - 5

 

shows this hand?

umm...yes? How about xx x AKQJxxx xxx hoping to hear 3N.

 

Anyways I would pass.

 

Edit: my dad votes for double.

Jeez you're getting chicken in your old age :rolleyes: . I passed too.

 

Pard also passed with Ax JTxxx Ax AQxx. I guess the doublers are +150 (or is this a 5 call after 4 ?!), but -140 was pretty lousy when I led my heart and pard ducked the spade off the board.

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I was thinking about this, it seems reasonable that 5 over 4 shows this hand, since it doesn't leave room for any other strains. But if the minors were reversed, would you still bid the same way and bid 5 over 4? That sure sounds like both minors.

 

Anyway, the idea of making a negative double with only one suit that I actually want to ever play in makes me uneasy, but I guess it will work fine on this hand.

It is weird to me that making a negative double with a 1 suiter hoping to find 3N makes you more uneasy than with a hand that has 11 cards in 2 suits at least. I mean even with 1156 you would pass partners 4H if you somehow made a negative double. So we are talking about either 12 minor cards or 2056.

 

2056 is a problem, but it seems obvious to me that no other shapes would start with a negative double or pull 4H. With 2056 you just take your chances whatever you do.

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