Gerben42 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 All red, you pick up in 4th position: [hv=d=w&v=b&s=saq9732h74dk73c74]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] When you hear 1♦ on your left, you consider in what situations you would overcall. But then partner surprises you with 1♠, and RHO passes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 4♠. I'm not a big dog-walking fan. Sometimes you get stuck picking up the sh*t =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguelm Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I think 4S is too much.... yes, 6 good trumps, but two doubtful doubletons and a (very likely) wasted King... I might be too high and oppos might not have anything also. Probably 3S or 3D. I like 3S better because I leave oppos one less slot to come alive again ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I think 4S is too much.... yes, 6 good trumps, but two doubtful doubletons and a (very likely) wasted King... I might be too high and oppos might not have anything also. must....resist....3-letter acronyms.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'm not a big dog-walking fan. This isn't a dog-walking situation because it is possible that LHO has a distributional 2-suited hand or something. The only bid that causes trouble is 4♠. Other bids allow him to show his hand at a lowish level. 4♠ is arguably technically wrong, but it's probably the correct tactical call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 If I had four trump, this would be a mixed raise. With 6 trump, its silly. 4♠ doesn't describe this hand at all, but it does put a lot of pressure on the opponents. If pard opened 1♠, a 3N response like a lot of us play comes close to describing this hand: "I want to play 4♠, but my bid isn't purely preemptive, and I (inferentially) have a little defense". I haven't had a legitimate 3N response to an overcall in a long time. Scratch, that, never. Without anything fancy, I'll just shoot 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 4♠, right or wrong, seems obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 This is about as wtp as they come. Why do people waste valuable brain cells on problems like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 4♠. Not too many brain cells wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 My reasonings where on the track of Phil's. But when I foun we were vulnerable, I didn't think my 4♠ was a bad description any more. Not vulnerable I am tempted to make a mixed raise and raise it to 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 I honestly think any bid but 4♠ is an unlucky expert bid: technically flawless, in practice a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Where technically means what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlam Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Whereagles, you are confusing me. Could you explain this again?4♠ is arguably technically wrong, but it's probably the correct tactical call.I honestly think any bid but 4♠ is an unlucky expert bid: technically flawless, in practice a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Whereagles, you are confusing me. Could you explain this again?4♠ is arguably technically wrong, but it's probably the correct tactical call.I honestly think any bid but 4♠ is an unlucky expert bid: technically flawless, in practice a failure. Getting those two responses was canonical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Whereagles, you are confusing me. Could you explain this again?4♠ is arguably technically wrong, but it's probably the correct tactical call.I honestly think any bid but 4♠ is an unlucky expert bid: technically flawless, in practice a failure. Getting those two responses was canonical. LOLOLOLOLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Whereagles, you are confusing me. Could you explain this again?4♠ is arguably technically wrong, but it's probably the correct tactical call.I honestly think any bid but 4♠ is an unlucky expert bid: technically flawless, in practice a failure. huh? I don't see what's the problem, but ok. What I mean is that 4♠ is a practical bid that may be wrong (technically wrong) but puts a lot of pressure (hence, correct tactical call). Other bids may show the hand better than 4♠ (hence, those other bids are tecnically flawless) but leave space for opener to describe a possible 1 or 2 suiter, which might give you hard time if opps bid over 4♠ (unlucky expert, who bids flawlessly but then gets the final guess because he neglects tactical issues). Clearer now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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