se12sam Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=skh1042dqj962caj65]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]Edit: You are South (dealer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 easy pass for me. I'd open 1♦ with ♠x and ♥KTx, but that would be a close one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeac Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I open 1♦ WTP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Pass, and this is a WTP. Move the king of spades into one of the other suits,and you can open, and most likely I would, since Ihave an easy rebid. If you would also switch the minor suit length, I wouldpass due to the problematic rebid. If you open and cite the rule of 20 as defence, I wouldsuggest that you go back to the original text and reread,I am pretty sure, you will find, that the text does notrecommend opening this hand. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 In my old style this is an easy 1♦ bid, now it is a pass buts its close! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Clear pass. Give me a small spade and let the king be in either of the other three suits instead of a small card and I open. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 A good rule is that singleton honors are only worth half of what they are worth otherwise. For a singleton Ace, count 3 instead of 4. This hand is then only worth about 9.5 HCP, which is not nearly enough for an opening bid. Conclusion: Easy pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 One positive to opening is that you have an easy rebid. The glaring negative is that minor openings based on minor two-suiters have a wild-ass range, primarily because opening 2♣ with a minor two-suiter is so horrifying. Extending the range too far into the weak realm is not ideal. Had the hand been 3154 shape, I'd be less concerned, because I could stomach a 1♦-P-1♥-P-1♠ sequence. All of that said, FWIW, this type of problem is alleviated if you elect to use an intermediate 2♦ opening for the minors (maybe 14-16 or so). That splits up the minor range and allows a 1♦...2♣ sequence to show about 10+ to 13-. One of the reasons I like that convention is that you can get in with this sort of hand comfortably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 This is an automatic pass in a standard method. Point counters should understand and add to their arsenal an appreciation of in-and-out valuation. Honours in long(ish) suits are worth more than the same honours in short suits... for an elementary reason. Points don't take tricks.... cards do. Having high cards in long suits maximizes the chance that you will be able to establish and cash the small cards, after using your high cards to drive out or defeat the opps's high cards. So a stiff K is not a good offensive card... at least, not initially... it may revalue as the auction progresses, but at this stage, it is almost worthless. Unless you play an intentionally and abnormal light opening style (which rarely works in a standard based approach because the opening bid requirements become so broad that many constructive auctions become problematic), this is a clear pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'd pass, and I don't think it's a particularly close call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill1157 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 a 2♦ opening has alot of merit NV Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 a 2♦ opening has alot of merit NV Bill Not in my opinion... and I am a big fan of the weak 2♦... the idea of perpetrating that call with this hand makes me ill :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 This is an automatic pass in a standard method. Point counters should understand and add to their arsenal an appreciation of in-and-out valuation. Honours in long(ish) suits are worth more than the same honours in short suits. To prove Mike's point: K&R Hand EvaluatorK10xxQJ9xxAJxx 9.95 ... xK10xQJ9xxAJxx 12.05 ... and even better: x10xxKQJ9xAJxx 13.15 http://www.jeffgoldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Pass for me... It's not too close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 This is a totally obvious pass and you could even strengthen the hand a little and I still wouldn't open it. I hate opening light with both minors anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Obvious pass for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petergreat Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Bad singleton ♠K, poor texture, only 11 points, pass without thinking. Okay, the last part was a lie, at least I did waste effort counting out: 1, 2, 3, ... , 11, Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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