Phil Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Han included me and Haspel in a match with his Hoemies. Here's a few interesting decisions: Long match. 1. r/w , Qx Ax QT9x AKJxx 2♥ - dbl - 4♥ - ? 2♥ is frequently 5. 2. Txx, AKJ, Jxx, AQxx 1N - 2♥2♠ - 3♣3♠ - 4♦ - x4♥ - 5♥? 3. r/w, KJT87x AT98xx x void 1♣ - (1♠) - ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 1) This is not how haspel gave me the auction, not sure if you changed the auction on purpose or haspel gave it wrong. I would bid 5N with the given auction. 2) 6C seems clear, the 44 fit will be better and it might protect partners DK. 3) I'm sure this will be considered weird but I like passing with this. my goal is to describe my hand best by later bidding hearts rather than to penalize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 1. 5NT seems clear. If hearts are 5422, maybe we can pitch my heart on a spade. 2. Partner has pretty much forced to slam, but I don't see how to get to 7 facing, eg, AKQTx, --, Axxx, KJxx, so I'll park it in 6♣. 3. I would pass too, but not because I hope to describe this hand later (I don't think I can) but because I think that 2♥ is going to endplay me into bidding 3♥ next round and then pulling 3NT to 4♥. 4♥ is going to play like a dog if partner doesn't have hearts too, so I think that passing is the best way to get some information. Plus, we might belong in spades anyway (Qx, x, AQxx, KQJ9xx). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I was going to double 4H on hand 1 before I saw the other responses. So far I haven't changed my mind. Sure they may be stealing our 5m and the vul is perfect for the oppo. But I will settle for a plus a few hundred against a speculative 11. Hand 2 I regret opening 1N now. What would pass of 4D show? Does 4H deny a diamond control? Anyway 6C along with the crowd. Same with passing hand 3, which to me seems the least contentious problem of the three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 On 1, what's the difference between 5NT and 4NT followed by a raise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 On 1, what's the difference between 5NT and 4NT followed by a raise? It might help partner to know that you have a slam forcing hand so that he can bid 7 at appropriate times? Never thought about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hand 2 I regret opening 1N now. LOL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hum... HOK as in "Het HOK", the Amsterdam bridge club?? :) 1. Dbl seems clear. To me, at least :rolleyes: Will probably pass pard's 5m bid. 2. I hate it when pard makes undiscussed bids that I have to guess the meaning. Anyway, I don't like the looks of this, so sign off in 5♠. 3. Pass too. Pard's expected hand is some crazy 65 in the minors. If it isn't, he'll bid something and we get to show our hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 (2): What would pass of 4♦x have meant? If it shows a poor hand, then I'd have done that -- partner can XX if he wants me to cuebid anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hum... HOK as in "Het HOK", the Amsterdam bridge club?? Yep. #1. 5NT #2. 5♠, I don't like where this is going. #3. I would bid 2♥ only if it is not forcing, otherwise pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 1. 4NT then cuebid 5♥. 2. 6♣ 3. Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Alert: Overbidder 1) I bid 4NT and follow it with a 5♥ cue. Edit: Maybe this is too much.... gnasher has brought up the key idea I think. 2) Really tough. Why didn't partner save me the anguish and bid keycard? This makes my club suit righteous but my ♥ wastage sucks bigtime. If partner is 5-5 then 6♣ (and probably 6♠) is most likely laydown. Partner's failure to bid 4♣ is also a concern. I'm envisioning AKQxx x Axx J10xx. I go low with 5♠ I guess. 3) I just bid 2♥. I'm a simple man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 1. 5N. I hadn't thought of 4N then 5♥ but while it is seductive, I don't think the hand is quite strong enough... that sequence is a grand slam try, and the hand doesn't merit that by itself... give me a stiff A of hearts, and maybe make one of my Queens a King and I would do it. Anyone who doubles must hate bidding slams :) 2. 6♣: Sure, I have a poor hand in context, but maybe having nothing in diamonds is good news... and if the hand plays a trick better in clubs, then 6♣ has to be better than 5♠. I assume that we have denied any form of diamond control in this auction. 3. pass for now. Not sure what I am going to do later... I am not planning on leaving in a reopening double...we have too many hearts in that scenario.... may have a tough time catching up if he reopens 2♣.... but this may not be a real problem is this is as much of a misfit as that may suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Anyone who doubles must hate bidding slams :) If you're trying to provoke me into biting, keep trying. You'll be doing that for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 1. 5NT. At least try to get to the right strain. 2. 6♣. Many reasons why this may be the best spot. The 4-4 can often be the better contract and protects partner's potential diamond card on the lead. 3. I think I would pass. Hate not to bid a 6 card heart suit. One alternative I haven't seen mentioned (maybe I'm blind) is double, planning on bidding hearts cheaply next round. We obviously don't expect partner to leave it in, but when we bid hearts next round, we have limited our hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 1. I like the 4NT then 5♥ plan.2. 5♥ is a big bid, I'll offer 6♣.3. I wouldn't have thought to pass, but since others thought of it for me I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 1. Justin, how did Haspel give you the hand? I'll check the record to see if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Say you cue 4♥ instead of 5N (which is reasonable I think too). Is there much difference between that and some stronger initial actions? Does 4♥ imply spades for anyone? 2. 6♣ is indeed the winner. Pard held AKQJx x Kxx Kxxx. I bid 5♠ which is certainly horrible in retrospect (even five gets beat on a diamond through), but I pictured more like AKxxx, x, Axx, Kxxx for some reason. 3. I'll hold off on what I did here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Hard to cue 4H when they bid 4H! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Hard to cue 4H when they bid 4H! Doh!, then they just raised to 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 1. Justin, how did Haspel give you the hand? I'll check the record to see if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Say you cue 4♥ instead of 5N (which is reasonable I think too). Doh!, then they just raised to 3. I loled. Over 3H I would start with double, what happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Why is 6C an offer to play there on number 2? I thought trumps were agreed when we bid 3S. We didn't have a chance to cuebid clubs at the 4-level; wouldn't we show a club honor here on the way to a spade slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Why is 6C an offer to play there on number 2? I thought trumps were agreed when we bid 3S. We didn't have a chance to cuebid clubs at the 4-level; wouldn't we show a club honor here on the way to a spade slam? We have not denied 4 clubs yet, and 6C could easily be our best spot. To take away the ability to naturally bid what could easily be our best spot (basically any time we have 4 clubs to go with our 3 spades) in order to have it available as a cuebid trying to get to 7 seems very wrong. Most of the time partner can infer we have a high club honor anyways in this auction. I mean here if he has all the high trump honors (which we need to make 7), how could we be bidding this much with no club or spade honors, esp with RHO doubling diamonds. A lot of times just bidding 6D or 6H making a grand slam try will be enough for partner to say, "ok, he must have something in clubs otherwise this is impossible." Even if that weren't true, I don't think it would be worth it to just give up a natural meaning for a slam bid that could be our best spot though. That must have priority over everything else. If you're really worried about this though I recommend playing a jump to 4D in this auction over 3C as showing a double fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 1. Justin, how did Haspel give you the hand? I'll check the record to see if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Say you cue 4♥ instead of 5N (which is reasonable I think too). Doh!, then they just raised to 3. I loled. Over 3H I would start with double, what happens? Wait, give me a minute to scrape the mold off this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Oh I saw april 15th I just assumed it was today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pict Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 4NT, 5♠ and 2♥ seem so clear to me that I'm interested to understand the other options better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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