jillybean Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=e&s=shxxdxxxxxxcajxxx]133|100|Scoring: MPyour bid?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zasanya Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Pass unless there is a bid to show weak minor 2 suiter like tartan 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Pass! At least one of the other 3 player will have an opening, so you will be able to bid later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Pass, unless you have a bid to show both minors. Even then I would only do this nv as the lack of honours in the D suit is a bit scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 3D if my hand was - xx AJxxxx xxxxx. But this one I pass and plan to come back in with 2NT showing both minors since we are favourable and can have a good sac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Seems like a pass, even playing 2NT as minors :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Pass. Even if 2NT was minors, I would probably pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Easy pass for me playing 2NT as natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I have no idea why anyone would pass if 2NT was minors, at any vul. But like the others, I have no idea why anyone would bid if you can't show the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I'd bid 2NT NV where it shows the minors. Vulnerable, I play it stronger. Other than that, definite pass. No safety for a diamond preempt, it probably gets partner off to the second (or third) best lead, and it's unilateral when you might very well be reasonably well suited to compete in clubs. It's got the same plus all preempts have - the opponents might land in the wrong spot -- but it's far outweighed by the minuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Even I can't preempt with no honors in my suit, as much as I like my hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Further downside: It's got defense in the form of an outside ace and potential spade ruff(s), should the opponents end up in hearts. So if you preempt, you could end up in the wrong suit (vs. clubs), you could get killed in the right suit, and you could induce a sacrifice over a game contract that wasn't going to make. Or you could NOT sacrifice and it makes only because your bid tipped partner the wrong way on a close lead decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 yes, wtp pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 White on red? 2♦ weak could be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 White on red? 2♦ weak could be fun. Opening 7♦ could be fun too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 White on red? 2♦ weak could be fun. Opening 7♦ could be fun too. I suppose I should say that opening 2♦ could be fun and could actually work often enough to be worth consideration. If, that is, partner has a sense of humor. 7♦ seems less likely to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Ok, this was a hand I had at the club last night - I'm not feeling quite so smart about it today. [hv=d=e&v=n&n=saxxxhxxdaqjxcktx&w=skqjxxxxhtxdkxcxx&e=shxxdxxxxxxcajxxx&s=stxhakqjxxxdtcqxx]399|300|Scoring: MP1♦ (4♥) 4♠ (X) P (4nt) AP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Pass. If you have agreed, that 4Nt showes the minors,this would be perfect, but this is no BI agreement,and should not be on the to of your priority listto add. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 FWIW, gave this to a semi-pro friend of mine, who opened 2♦ but considered 3♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 FWIW, gave this to a semi-pro friend of mine, who opened 2♦ but considered 3♦. That's why he's a "Semi-Pro" :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goobers Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 FWIW, gave this to a semi-pro friend of mine, who opened 2♦ but considered 3♦. Your bridge partner is Will Ferrell!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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