Apollo81 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 None Vul, IMPs ♠Jx♥AQJxx♦K9x♣Jxx (1♣)-pass-(2♠)*-??? * weak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 no way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 I wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Well, there is some danger that partner can't balance either and we will defend 2♠ making when we could make 3♥. It's not like partner is going to learn anything substantial from opener's pass. Perhaps this would have been a better matchpoint problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 P-A-S-S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Well, there is some danger that partner can't balance either and we will defend 2♠ making when we could make 3♥. It's not like partner is going to learn anything substantial from opener's pass. Perhaps this would have been a better matchpoint problem. To first part, if you can make 3♥ you will be in 4♥. To second part, seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Obviously there are significant risks to taking a non-pass call, but if we pass, won't partner frequently have a weak notrump hand and pass this auction out? Is defending 2♠ really our best spot in such a case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 If you don't have enough to act then you don't have enough. You can make all the same arguments if it goes 2♠ opening on your right, or 1♣ p 3♠ natural and weak to you. But none of that is a particularly good reason to act on a clearly inadequate hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 If you don't have enough to act then you don't have enough. You can make all the same arguments if it goes 2♠ opening on your right, or 1♣ p 3♠ natural and weak to you. But none of that is a particularly good reason to act on a clearly inadequate hand. You wouldn't bid NV over a 2♠ opening on your right either? (assume partner isn't a passed hand, which is is sort of not here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 It's very risky, but this is very likely to get passed our, so I think you should bid. Certainly at MPs. 3♥. With trepidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 It's very risky, but this is very likely to get passed our, so I think you should bid. Certainly at MPs. 3♥. With trepidation. Trepidation isn't the adjective that I would use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Unsurprisingly, overcalling works out poorly: [hv=d=w&v=n&n=sxxhktdtxxxcakqxx&w=sakhxxxdajxctxxxx&e=sqtxxxxxhxxxdqxxc&s=sjxhaqjxxdk9xcjxx]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] EW can take 4♥ down four on good defense. They have to double to win more than 1 IMP, however, as South will likely lead diamonds against a spade contract. It's interesting to note that if West opens a Precision 1♦, 4♥x will be a very likely contract for N-S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 I am curious - who is going to double 4♥, East or West? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 I'm not sure what your hand proves. Give East a 6331 or 7321 and West one more red card, and you are making 4H with 2S only one off. But then give East a top spade honour, and that ain't true any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 If you don't have enough to act then you don't have enough. You can make all the same arguments if it goes 2♠ opening on your right, or 1♣ p 3♠ natural and weak to you. But none of that is a particularly good reason to act on a clearly inadequate hand. You wouldn't bid NV over a 2♠ opening on your right either? (assume partner isn't a passed hand, which is is sort of not here).No, and the very thought of doing so makes me shudder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 I'm not sure what your hand proves. Give East a 6331 or 7321 and West one more red card, and you are making 4H with 2S only one off. But then give East a top spade honour, and that ain't true any more. I don't think it proves anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 I am curious - who is going to double 4♥, East or West? East can (to get a club lead) and did at the other table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 If you don't have enough to act then you don't have enough. You can make all the same arguments if it goes 2♠ opening on your right, or 1♣ p 3♠ natural and weak to you. But none of that is a particularly good reason to act on a clearly inadequate hand. You wouldn't bid NV over a 2♠ opening on your right either? (assume partner isn't a passed hand, which is is sort of not here). No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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