happybridge Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 [hv=d=e&v=b&s=saq6hj96432dacj102]133|100|E S W N1D 1H - 1S- 2H - 3C[/hv] N-S:2/1W-E:2/1 sit in south:1.is 2♥ right here?or 2♠better?2.after pd 3♣,what you next bid? thx :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 No, 2♥ is not correct. That 6 card suit looks more like a four or five card one to me, especially on this auction. I would raise to 2♠ immediately. What do I bid over 3♣? Well, i would not be at this point now. My hand is actually very nice for this auction. The ♣JTx are nice, the singleton ♦A is nice, and of course those three spades including two of the top three honors are golden. This minimum hand is actually GREAT on this auction. If I had bid this way (which I would not have), I would not now bid only 3♠, as that sounds like, well, I had to take a preference between your suits and I may not be happy about it. So I am going to bid aggressively now. I might just jump to 4♠, but I think instead I will cue-bid 3♦ followed by a ♠ raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 2S. Hearts are not good enough for 2H. Over 3C I bid 4S. Very similar to Ben's answer, however I would not cuebid 3D followed by a S raise. In my partnerships that would show a better C fit than on the current hand, (not that JTx is a bad fit, far from it). We bid this way in case partner is looking for something beyond game, in either C or S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishovnbg Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 1. 2♠2. 4♠ KISS bridge :D Misho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 2♠, my ♥ are not good enough to mention.3♣ is a gametry and I accept. Mike ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 I just hate so much raising with 3 cards (if you ever play with me please DO NOT DO THAT EVER) so I beleive 2♥ or maybe 2♣ are the best voices. Ok, ok, the honnors contradict those bids so much, maybe even me this time would bid 2♠ (but I doubt it :) ) Your partner bid a new suit over his rebid of 2♠? we are on GF then, I am happy with 3♠. Oh yeah I contradict everyone, I love it ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Fluffy - 2 pointsYour partner almost certainly has 5S so there is no problem raisning on 3 card support. Much better than bidding that motheaten H suit again. If you only bid 3S after partners's new suit, partner will pass. 3C is a game try and by bidding 3S you have rejected it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Hey Ron! I play it kinda different, 1♠= 4+ cards 1 round forcing. 3♣ invitational?, mmm not sure, but ok, bidding 4♠ can´t hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Hey Ron! I play it kinda different, 1♠= 4+ cards 1 round forcing. 3♣ invitational?, mmm not sure, but ok, bidding 4♠ can´t hurt. Its ok to play 1s to show 4 but this isnt the normal way and since there was no alert in the question we can assume its 5 card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben47 Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Well I played it showing 5 until something like this came up: KJTxAxxxxKQxx (1♦) 1♥ (p) ? Do you a) Bid 1♠ anyway?B) Bid 2NT without stopper?c) Bid 2♦ which is forcing but shows something completely different 1st question: I like raising 4-card suits to the 2-level. 2♠. 2nd question: 4♠. Gerben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Its ok to play 1s to show 4 but this isnt the normal way and since there was no alert in the question we can assume its 5 card. There is no standard method defined for this sequence, how do you know what you say is the normal way?, just because 90% people consider it that way?, I think mine is the normal B) :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Its ok to play 1s to show 4 but this isnt the normal way and since there was no alert in the question we can assume its 5 card. There is no standard method defined for this sequence, how do you know what you say is the normal way?, just because 90% people consider it that way?, I think mine is the normal B) :D :) me too :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Well I played it showing 5 until something like this came up: KJTxAxxxxKQxx (1♦) 1♥ (p) ? Do you a) Bid 1♠ anyway?B) Bid 2NT without stopper?c) Bid 2♦ which is forcing but shows something completely different 1st question: I like raising 4-card suits to the 2-level. 2♠. 2nd question: 4♠. Gerben bid double (lol i was teaching a group today, was trying to explain to them that sometimes you will responde 2c over opener's 1M with only 3 cards, and this guy kept telling me he would double, no matter how much i tried to explain, he insisted on doubling his partner)I am not sure 2d show a completely different hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 bid double (lol i was teaching a group today, was trying to explain to them that sometimes you will responde 2c over opener's 1M with only 3 cards, and this guy kept telling me he would double, no matter how much i tried to explain, he insisted on doubling his partner)I am not sure 2d show a completely different hand. For those of us who play 4 card majors on this position cue-bid promises fit (maybe this comes from the fact that we often overcall 4 card suits :rolleyes: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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