Free Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 You hold:[hv=d=e&v=e&s=s752h85dcakqt7642]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] RHO opens 1♠. What's your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 3♠. Asks for a stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 5♣. Asks them what they're going to do now. 3♠. Asks for a stop. Is he supposed to look at his red-suit stops too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Is he supposed to look at his red-suit stops too? The 3♠ bid may include a red stopper, but usually not both. Pard acts accordingly. 5♣ is much more pragmatic than 3♠, which rates to be the unlucky expert bid. But hey, I've seen Rodwell doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 w/r, sign me up for 5C. 3S seems too flawed for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 3♠ is sort of a gambling bid. Sign me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 But hey, I've seen Rodwell doing it. seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Yes, it's in Zia's autobiographic book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 5♣, I'm commonly known as annoying and I want to keep that reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 5♣ of course. What have you seen Rodwell do exactly? Make the 3♠ bid, or make it on a hand with no outside stoppers? I remember neither such hand from Zia's book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Didn't we discuss how its wrong to bid 3♠ on this the other day? At these colors, put me down for 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Didn't we discuss how its wrong to bid 3♠ on this the other day? At these colors, put me down for 5♣. In a shocking twist of developments, whereagles' mind has not been changed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexlogan Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 6♣ . If I'm doubled and down 4, they likely had slam. I risk pushing them into a making slam, but I think odds are they don't (and I won't be down 4.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 6♣ . If I'm doubled and down 4, they likely had slam. I risk pushing them into a making slam, but I think odds are they don't (and I won't be down 4.) Does that apply if partner has the ace of diamonds and clubs are 2-1-2 around the table, so they don't even have a game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Even I would bid 5C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 What have you seen Rodwell do exactly? Make the 3♠ bid, or make it on a hand with no outside stoppers? I remember neither such hand from Zia's book. It was a similar hand, but with hearts instead. Played in some Pakistan-USA final. It turned into an opening lead problem, as you set it with an unusual, though logic, lead (not found at table). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 What have you seen Rodwell do exactly? Make the 3♠ bid, or make it on a hand with no outside stoppers? I remember neither such hand from Zia's book. It was a similar hand, but with hearts instead. Played in some Pakistan-USA final. It turned into an opening lead problem, as you set it with an unusual, though logic, lead (not found at table). I'll flip through the book tonight. I have my doubts that he would do such a thing with a long minor and no outside cards at all, but who knows maybe I forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Just a note: suit was diamonds and he did have one less, I think. Can't remember the vuln, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 But hey, I've seen Rodwell doing it. seriously? Yes, Nuno is corrrect. In fact it was x and xx and the correct lead had to be found to beat it - it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=17148 http://www.sarantakos.com/bridge/vugraph/1981/seg5.lin xTxAKQTxxxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 On the actual hand I would bid 5C , because of the 8th club, the void , and the vulnerability. About the question : "should a "jump-cuebidder" have outside stoppers?"I prefer to agree with my partners , that this shows the same hand as a gambling 3NT opener (meaning NO side stoppers) , and then responder can judge well what to do.If the bid does show one outside stop, how can the responder figure out which? And also , the hand with an outside stop is obviously stronger, and can be handled with some slower route , rather than a jump-cuebid , which is effectively a 4-level preempt (though giving partner the chance to play 3NT if he wishes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I bid 5♣ like most of you do, LHO doubled and I went -4 when ♣ broke 1-4. Partner had a 3-5-5-0 with some Queens but they didn't help. This was not a good score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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