shevek Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 [hv=d=e&v=b&s=sqt987h6d75cak975]133|100|Scoring: IMP 3♥ - no4♥ - 4♠ - no - ?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 5♥. Pard is probably more worried of heart control than club tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 I would have overcalled. I seem to need less for this sort of action than I used to. Having passed, I'll cuebid 5♣. If partner bids 5♦, I'll drive slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnJoe Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 I have to agree with Gnasher. I don't think partner is worried about hearts. One of us has to be void or single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 I'll bid 5♣ as it's very likely that partner is concerned about ♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 I have to agree with Gnasher. I don't think partner is worried about hearts. One of us has to be void or single. Partner may well be worried about heart control. By bidding 5♦ he gives me the opportunity to show it. If he doesn't bid 5♦, he says that either he doesn't have diamond control or he's not interested in slam given that I passed over 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 I would have passed and now I will bid 5C. I like this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 While we're at it, what do you think P P 3H P4H 4S P 5C means? and what aboutP P 3H P 4H 4S P 4NT ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suokko Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Partner won't take 5♣ as cue but more like natural with spade tolerance.Because I have good support and slam invitational hand with heart control I'm going to bid 5♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 I can't believe 5♥ is the correct bid. For one thing partner might take it as asking for a ♥ control. For another, will partner know what he needs to bid a slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 1. For one thing partner might take it as asking for a ♥ control. 2. For another, will partner know what he needs to bid a slam? 1. Why? A raise to 5♠ is a more common bid to show ♥ worries. I would say 5♥ is positive unless otherwise agreed. 2. He should bid it if he has extras. That's the only thing that can be gauged at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Overcalling seems really crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 1. For one thing partner might take it as asking for a ♥ control. 2. For another, will partner know what he needs to bid a slam? 1. Why? A raise to 5♠ is a more common bid to show ♥ worries. I would say 5♥ is positive unless otherwise agreed. 2. He should bid it if he has extras. That's the only thing that can be gauged at this stage. I am worried that partner will say to himself something like "Can that be a cue-bid? If so, why did he cue ♥ and not ♣ or ♦? Has he only got a ♥ control? In that case my ♣ don't look at all promising. Maybe it isn't a cue though - perhaps he is asking about ♥. But doesn't 5♠ that? Or does 5♠ asking for good trumps? Well I have fairly good trumps, but no ♥ control. Or maybe it asks if I have extras. Well I still don't like my ♣. Hmmm I have no idea what to do, and there might be bad breaks around. I'll bid 5♠" In short, I would be shocked if, after 5♥, partner did anything other than bid 5♠ - in which case we might as well pass 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Allright, Erick. Then go ahead and bid 5♣. Perhaps pard with AKxxxxxxAKJxx will think "hum.. maybe pard has a really big bunch of clubs, say KQJ 7th and prefers to play there. I'll pass." Maybe 5♥ isn't 100% clear as to controls, but at least it certainly shows some spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 1. For one thing partner might take it as asking for a ♥ control. 2. For another, will partner know what he needs to bid a slam? 1. Why? A raise to 5♠ is a more common bid to show ♥ worries. I would say 5♥ is positive unless otherwise agreed. 2. He should bid it if he has extras. That's the only thing that can be gauged at this stage. I am worried that partner will say to himself something like "Can that be a cue-bid? If so, why did he cue ♥ and not ♣ or ♦? Has he only got a ♥ control? In that case my ♣ don't look at all promising. Maybe it isn't a cue though - perhaps he is asking about ♥. But doesn't 5♠ that? Or does 5♠ asking for good trumps? Well I have fairly good trumps, but no ♥ control. Or maybe it asks if I have extras. Well I still don't like my ♣. Hmmm I have no idea what to do, and there might be bad breaks around. I'll bid 5♠" In short, I would be shocked if, after 5♥, partner did anything other than bid 5♠ - in which case we might as well pass 4♠. Come on. Looking at ♠AK, do you really think partner will think that we are moving towards slam missing two top trumps and all minor controls? Looking at ♠AK, do you really think partner will think we are just asking about a heart control when we are also missing the top two trumps?Partner will take 5♥ as a slam invitation with a heart control. It's not the best bid since 5♣ is better, but clearly partner will be able to bid 6 some of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 [hv=d=e&v=b&s=sqt987h6d75cak975]133|100|Scoring: IMP 3♥ - no4♥ - 4♠ - no - ?[/hv] pass, hoping for plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 5C, hoping to hear 5D over which I will bid 5H.Would definitely NOT have overcalled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Overcalling is nuts, and 5♣ now seems obvious. Surprised such an easy problem could generate so much debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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