Another interesting overcall situation

[Flameous]

Before you get to speak you hear 1♥ - P - 1♠ -

 

Looking at

 

AKQJxxx

KQTx

A

x

 

What's your choice?

[mtvesuvius]

Pass. 1♠ is forcing. Depending on the trouble they get themselves into, I'll decide what to do next round...

[kenrexford]

Pass is not an option.

 

Stuck on the phone and could not elaborate. Now back...

 

You can't pass here. The auctiuon could easily die at 1♠ if Opener made a psychic opening, or partner may be forced into a ridiculous "what to do" with a 0-count. That's no good.

 

If you did not have a 19-count with a rock offensively, you'd overcall 2♠. Why would you pass simply because your hand is too good to be expected? That's weird.

 

Just double like a sane person and bid spades later at whatever level makes contextual sense based on what happens next.

[cherdanno]

4♠, no reason to let them find their minor suit fit.

[whereagles]

These guys are jokers. Let's serve them right: 4♠ :P

[Apollo81]

4♠

[hanp]

No reason to think anybody is joking but I do want to play 4S.

[mtvesuvius]

No reason to think anybody is joking but I do want to play 4S.

I do too, but I'm not sure when the appropriate time to bid it is... Maybe it's immeadiately, but maybe it's delayed? Like I said in the other thread, I play 1♥ - 4♥ as natural, but I think the thoery is changed here... Thoughts?

[Flameous]

I think that here there is more point in 4♠ being natural. Assuming 5 card major openings, you generally don't want to play in a suit that is 5-0 but 4-1 makes sense on a lot more hands. This is of course assuming no psyches...

 

I chose to pass and wait for developments and it continued

 

1♥ - P - 1♠ - P

2♣ - P - P -

 

I bid 4♠ now, but what would 3♣ mean? Does it ask for a stopper expecting something like this?

 

Partner had ♣A and nothing else. With little help from defence 4♠ made but 3NT would have been a better contract.

 

Oh and everybody had their bid... B)

[hanp]

No reason to think anybody is joking but I do want to play 4S.

I do too, but I'm not sure when the appropriate time to bid it is... Maybe it's immeadiately, but maybe it's delayed? Like I said in the other thread, I play 1♥ - 4♥ as natural, but I think the thoery is changed here... Thoughts?

Yeah, this one is obviously natural. I would bid this without discussion.

[AnJoe]

4 spades.

if partner pulls it, I'll get a new partner. :blink:

[peachy]

Bid spades now. If I Dbl and then bid spades, the auction gets complicated for no reason and it will be impossible to convey this hand to partner later.

[JLOL]

4S