Mosene Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 You are dealt this (I forget vul) ♠Q76542♥865♦AK8♣10 Do you open 2 spades? If not, what do you bid after it goes: P (by you) - 1♣ - 1♥ - 1NT?? thanks - My bidding was terrible - just looking to see how to approach this hand. Particularly if you do not open 2 spades (maybe that was the problem) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Yes. 2♠ now. EDIT: Misread the bidding... I thought partner opened 1♣. Anyway... Here I think I'll bid 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 2C now, I would only have opened 2S NV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I would also open 2S. 2C is clear now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I would have opened 1♠ with these 26 ZARS. If for some reason I was not allowed to open 1S I would have passed and then raised to 2Hearts here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I would only have opened 2S NV.I would also open 2S.I wouldn't open 2♠ at any vulnerability. Is that a first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I wouldn't have opened 2♠, regardless of vuln. 2♥ is enough here. It blocks LHOs 2♣ bid, which is essential. If you cue, LHO might double and you'll probably have to take the push to 3♥, which is under threat by RHO's NT bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I would only have opened 2S NV.I would also open 2S.I wouldn't open 2♠ at any vulnerability. Is that a first? When I said I would open 2S I thought that we were NV. Obviously I would not open 2S vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosene Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Thanks all. 2 hearts is pretty much the limit of the hand as they are divided 4-1 with RHO having QJxx if I remember right. I think 2 hearts or 2 clubs gets you there. And the opps cannot make 3 clubs. In full confession mode, I bid the embarrasing 2♠'s over the 1nt bid thinking the bidding would not end there and I would support heart's next. But, of couse, the bidding did end there - down 1 (Even more sadly, I can probably make it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 What the heck was partner's hand? If partner had been allowed to say out loud, before my bid, "Please don't go past 2♥ because my hand is horrible," I'd still make a game try. With such a comment, how can you stop at 2♥?!?!? I understand that my thinking as to overcalls is a tad conservative (one-level is arguably an opener, or better) but wild as to jump overcalls (I'll bid 2♥ here with lousy hands), but opposite myself I'd blast a fit-bid 3♠ with this hand. I cannot imagine a style where this hand for dummy is not meriting strong action, though. So, although I'd open this hand (torn between 1♠ and 2♠ somewhat, but strongly leaning 2♠), I think pass-then-2♣ is the conservative bid, pass-then-3♠ as a fit bid makes sense if partner makes sound overcalls, and pass-then-2♥ is just plain bizarre. The big question is whether I pass 2♥ after my 2♣ call. This is almost good enough to bump one more time. Another question is whether 2♠ actually makes sense as a fit-bid without the jump, which would be really appealing if it would mean that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosene Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Partner had ♠x♥AKxxx♦Qxx♣109xx I was thinking my bid must show some heart support - but based on the comments (except Ken's) I really overbid it. FYI - I was second seat (not 1st as I thought) non vulnerable. I hated bidding 2 spades with such awful spots. Yet - that did not stop me from bidding it at my second turn :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Ken in part of your post you seem to realize that you are once again way out there, in other parts you do not. At least be consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Ken in part of your post you seem to realize that you are once again way out there, in other parts you do not. At least be consistent. I don't think I was inconsistent. What I said was that I would want to have an agreement where a 1♥ overcall by partner in this sequence showed an opening hand abnd that, if this was the agreement, I would bid 3♠ as advancer. I then said that, because I do not expect partner to have that strict of a heart range in the actual problem, I would in this actual situation bid 2♣, which had a fairly strong support among others. I ended by commenting that passing partner's 2♥ call after my 2♣ call would be difficult. I don't see the inconsistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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