Ant590 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sqhakt94da3caq743&s=sajt8653hdkqt875c]133|200|Scoring: MP[/hv] Which contract do you want to be in?Which contract do you reach in your chosen system? Full hand to follow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 ===> 6♠ ===> 3NT or 4NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 ===> 3NT or 4NT lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Well, 7♦ is close... But I think I would stick with 6♠: 1♠ - 2♥ (GF)2♠ - 3♣3♦ - 4♣ (NOT 4th Suit Forcing; Natural)5NT - 6♠ (Pick a slam; Maybe North would bid 6NT here... But now it's wrongsided. I think 6♠ is a better bid.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilgan Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 -> 6♠.-> not sure actually. Probably 6♠. At matchpoints our auction would likely go: 1♠ 2♥ 2♠ 2NT 4♠ 4NT 5♣ 6♠ or 1♠ 2♥ 2♠ 2NT 3♦ 4NT 6♦ avoiding 3♣ might or might not be a good idea. In north's view, the hand is likely heading towards 6NT/7NT or 6♠/7♠ and if its NT he wants to play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 ===> 3NT or 4NT How could South ever sit for 3NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 1♠-2♥2♠-3♣3♦-3♠4♠-4NTetc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 6NT north. 6♠. Viking club 1♠ - 1NT (10-15; GF relay)2♣ - 2♦ (max; relay)4♠ - 4NT (7-6 pointed!!*; aces)5♣ - 5♥ (1A, kings)5NT - 6♠ (1K; no reason to ask for queens). (*) there is another route to showing a good 7-6 that can be used with übermax, if one can't stand a pass to 4♠. One can show 7-6 and min as well. So the actual sequence shows some body in the suits. http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2222864/viking-main_Full.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Why is everyone bidding 2♠ over 2♥? Can't I bid 3♦ then 4♦ then ... ? Isn't that a more accurate way of describing my hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I remember a similar hand in a Marshall Miles book - his suggestion was to open 1S and rebid 6D. I think after that start there's a reasonable chance to play 6NT by North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant590 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sqhakt94da3caq743&w=s7hqj62dj64cjt652&e=sk942h8753d92ck98&s=sajt8653hdkqt875c]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] We had a rocky sequence to 6NT by North. East lead ♠2 and did well enough to duck after I played the Ace and Jack of spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 ===> 3NT or 4NT How could South ever sit for 3NT? He would always sit there if he opens 1♠ and responder after relays choses to sign off in NON-correctable 3NT/4NT. 7-6 doun't come up much, so it doesn't bother me.My system is made to win tournaments, not spesific hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 ===> 3NT or 4NT How could South ever sit for 3NT? by PASSING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 7-6 doun't come up much, so it doesn't bother me.My system is made to win tournaments, not spesific hands. Seems like two arguments not to pass 3NT with this shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 ===> 3NT or 4NT How could South ever sit for 3NT? He would always sit there if he opens 1♠ and responder after relays choses to sign off in NON-correctable 3NT/4NT. 7-6 doun't come up much, so it doesn't bother me.My system is made to win tournaments, not spesific hands. Shouldn't your system be tailored toward all possible hands? Or at least if it's not made for all possible hands, have a way to show these hands, so that these boards are not disasters? After all, it's kinda tough to win tournements with 1 or 2 dead zeroes just in the bidding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 ===> 3NT or 4NT How could South ever sit for 3NT? He would always sit there if he opens 1♠ and responder after relays choses to sign off in NON-correctable 3NT/4NT. 7-6 doun't come up much, so it doesn't bother me.My system is made to win tournaments, not spesific hands. Shouldn't your system be tailored toward all possible hands? Or at least if it's not made for all possible hands, have a way to show these hands, so that these boards are not disasters? After all, it's kinda tough to win tournements with 1 or 2 dead zeroes just in the bidding... I didn't say that there isn't way how to show 7-6, there is..Spot cards in openers ♠ suit is the problem i can't solve Dead zero? B) It could be Uber max as well... i just tried to say that it woun't frustrate me if i get something below 50% with 7-6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Shouldn't your system be tailored toward all possible hands? Or at least if it's not made for all possible hands, have a way to show these hands, so that these boards are not disasters?No. It should be tailored to maximising your chances of winning (or whatever your objective is). That can include accepting that you'll get a zero on a certain category of hand, provided that your system gains enough on other hands to make up for it. If the hands on which you'll get a system-induced zero are very rare, not much compensation is needed on other hands. After all, it's kinda tough to win tournements with 1 or 2 dead zeroes just in the bidding...Hands containing two voids make up about 0.01% of hands. To expect two of them in a single tournament, the event would have to be 2000 boards long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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