Cascade Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi Anyone playing Negative Free Bids how do you play the following auction? 1♥ (2♣) X (3♣)X What is this double? and if the auction continues 1♥ (2♣) X (3♣)X (P) 3♠ What is 3♠ Now? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I'm used to play neg freebids, and the Dbl would be responsive. When the auction continues, 3♠ should be at least a 4 card, to stay under 3NT when opener had only 3♠s... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Don't listen to me, I never liked negative free bids, but here is how I use to play them. The bid of a suit after their overcall showed something like 10HCP or less and the suit bid, not forcing. A double (like in your example) was either a real negative double, or a hand too good for a negative free bid. So this brings us back to the questions on your auctions. I play the double of 3♣ here as optional. I expect partner to have ♠ and ♦ (a typical negative double), and opposite that, I think I can beat it. I DO NOT play this as "responsive or takeout", since I play partner for showing the unbid suits with his initial double, so I have no need to tell my partner I have those suits too. I expect with a negative double hand my partner will generally pass this double, or perhaps take me back to 3♥. What is 3♠ after I double 3♣? It certainly is not 4♠s. I denied 4♠ when I went wacking 3♣. It shows a real ♠ suit, and a hand too good for a negative double. In addition, since he expects me to be defensive oriented for my optional double, I think partner will not be spades and minimum (like 11 or 12) becasue he could generally pass that. But then again, I may never have played negative free bids right, so take this advice understanding that this is not somehting I bid anymore. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I play -ve free bids The X by opener is a penalty suggestion The 3S bid by responder is forcing with S. There is also a strong suggestion that the S are not that great, as with an excellent S suit responder would have jumped to 3S. This appears to be a fairly standard way of playing it too Wayne, judging by Marek Wojcicki's notes. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted May 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 This appears to be a fairly standard way of playing it too Wayne, judging by Marek Wojcicki's notes. Where do I find Marek Wojcicki's notes? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Try looking in your email inbox. (I'll send them now.)There is heaps more, but its all in Polish. Alex translated what I sent you.Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishovnbg Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi Wayne!In bulgaria is very common to play negative free bids at 2/4 level and RF bids at 1/3 level - best way imo: 1 level good opponents will not allow you to play; 2 level is critical - with good 5 cards major suit can be too late to guess board if they continue to compete; 3 level of new suit rare can be exactly right contract, 3NT for example can be same; 4 level game is normal NF. 1) Most of bulgarian good players will bid dbl with hcp enough for game and without 4 cards in ♠ or stopper ♣ and hand for NT. This is actually Garozzo 2/3 double, despite bulgarians don't know name of this convention. 2) 3♠ is normally 5+♠ and GF, but can be also with 4♠ and strong hand without ♣ stopper, because lack of bidding space. Misho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I would say that X would be Penalty oriented. With a 4 card ♠ he would just bid it, therefore also denying ♣ stopper, since he didn't bid 3 NT. Mike ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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