Phil Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 ♠AKQxx♥KQJx♦x♣xxx 1♣ - pass - 1♠ - pass1N - pass - 2♦* - dbl2♠ - pass - 4♦* - pass4♥ - pass - ? Said your all with 4♠ or do you go to the well again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Strongly disagree with 4D, 3H seems much better. I would just sign off now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Strongly disagree with 4D, 3H seems much better. I would just sign off now though. Well, OK, over 4♥, pard bids 4♣ (at least 2 of the top 3). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Strongly disagree with 4D, 3H seems much better. I would just sign off now though. Well, OK, over 4♥, pard bids 4♣ (at least 2 of the top 3). I agree with him about 3♥, and over 4♣ I bid 4♦ then sign off over 4♥ since I need more than JTx Axx xxx AKxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't understand the criticism of 4♦, but I am assuming partner has denied four hearts. What is the advantage of 3♥? I also don't understand the problem now, isn't sign-off obvious? We need A AKQ, and partner should cooperate with a minimum without wastage (♠J A AK). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't understand the criticism of 4♦, but I am assuming partner has denied four hearts. What is the advantage of 3♥? That there is a very large disparity between KQJx and xxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't understand the criticism of 4♦, but I am assuming partner has denied four hearts. What is the advantage of 3♥? That there is a very large disparity between KQJx and xxx. Well I can see that, but there is also a big difference between x and xxx.E.g. on your suggested auction, I can't see partner stopping with Jxx Ax Kxx AQxxx, whereas I think over 4♦ he will do the right thing most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't understand the criticism of 4♦, but I am assuming partner has denied four hearts. What is the advantage of 3♥? That there is a very large disparity between KQJx and xxx. Well I can see that, but there is also a big difference between x and xxx.E.g. on your suggested auction, I can't see partner stopping with Jxx Ax Kxx AQxxx, whereas I think over 4♦ he will do the right thing most of the time. After 3♥ then 4♦ he knows we don't have xxx of diamonds. I really don't agree that partner will move over 4♠ there given the double of 2♦. He should see that it's up to us to visualize his potential problem if we hold the ace of diamonds rather than a shortness control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 If you bid 4♠ now, pard, looking at ♠Jxx at best, will pass 110% of the time. So you have to guess NOW whether to bid slam or game. Unless pard has the magic hand xxxAxxxxxAKQx slam is certainly on a club finesse and can easily be worse. Opposite a more normal xxxAxxQxxAQxx 4♠ definitely seems like the better guess now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't understand the criticism of 4♦, but I am assuming partner has denied four hearts. What is the advantage of 3♥? That there is a very large disparity between KQJx and xxx. Well I can see that, but there is also a big difference between x and xxx.E.g. on your suggested auction, I can't see partner stopping with Jxx Ax Kxx AQxxx, whereas I think over 4♦ he will do the right thing most of the time. I'm not convinced. 3♥ followed by 4♦ really makes it clear we have no club help, so partner will not be excited about the AQxxx (maybe we have something like AQTxx KQxx AJx x?), whereas 4♦ does suggest something in clubs, so partner may well think Jxx Ax Qxx AQxxx is gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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