jmcw Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=sak9xxhkq8d9xct8x]133|100|Scoring: IMPWith the ops silent you open 1♠ part bids 2♣. What's you call ?[/hv] I suspect this has been discussed before.If you cannot rebid ♠ (shows 6) then how do you proceed? I don't like 2NT with the weak doubleton, 3♣ seems awkward to say the least, I'm leaning toward 2♥ but with little conviction. If you rebid 2NT (likely wrong sided), how do you discover if the ♦ are adequately stopped to play 3NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I'm happy that in my partnerships 2♠ is the minimum rebid that can be done on a fivecard. It says minumum and denies everything the other calls would promise: no 2nd suit under 2♠, can't rebid 2NT lacking values in unbid suit(s), can't support partners suit. AFAIK this is standard in 2/1. My partner describes it as "2♠ is poverty". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Yeah, 2♠ is technically correct. Maybe 2NT if you play that as 12-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 This was just recently discussed... The answer is: Whatever your partnership uses as a catchall. For me, that's 2♠. http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=30732&st=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Yeah, most bid 2♠. I prefer either a manatory 2NT with this shape, or 2♦ as a catch-all, but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiker Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Bizarre! :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Everyone: 2♠ bid_em_up: 3♣ wtp??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I'm a strong believer in bidding 2S, but many great players that I know including meckwell and cheek/grue believe in bidding 2N, and 2S shows 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 2♠ is the accepted treatment. WoW that Meckwell can't bid 2♠ here. What is their solution with a hand like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Another 2♠ bidder here. Can't raise ♣ with three small and a real min hand and don't want to wrong side the NT or play it after losing the first 5 tricks in ♦. At least my ♠ suit is a decent 5 carder if we end up playing 4♠ on a 5-2 fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 WoW that Meckwell can't bid 2♠ here. What is their solution with a hand like this? "WTP, 2N shows 5(332), who cares about stoppers?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I assume the system is 2/1. I would venture to rebid 2S even if it promised 6 and hope we survive this hand, after which want to have system discussion to agree that 2S does not promise six, just denies ability to make any other bid. First because it makes sense (hehe, to me...) and second because it is a common accepted treatment in 2/1 and in my experience, a large majority of good players here play it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 This was just recently discussed... The answer is: Whatever your partnership uses as a catchall. For me, that's 2♠. http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=30732&st=0 wow@ this thread. If you won't bid 2N with BOTH suits unstopped and 5332 then when will you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Without any other special gadegts, I prefer to rebid 2♠ with such a hand, I'd need both side suit stopped to rebid 2NT (11-14). In a former partnership we used the 2NT rebid as a GF raise of responders suit and a simple raise as a minimum raise, both normally promising 4-card support. Thus more hands had to make the default 2♠ rebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 WoW that Meckwell can't bid 2♠ here. What is their solution with a hand like this? "WTP, 2N shows 5(332), who cares about stoppers?" You know, I could have said that :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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