mtvesuvius Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=e&n=skjxhqdtxxxxcatxx&s=saxhatxxxxdckqjxx]133|200|Scoring: IMPN - SPass - 1♥1NT - 3♣*3NT - 4♥5♣ - Pass *5-5+ in ♥ and ♣. (Because we are playing precision)[/hv] Who is to blame for not reaching 6♣ here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Well 3N is an absolutely horrible bid. North should not want to play 3N with those round suits, and no diamond stopper. If north bids 3S over 3C south can probably drive it. If north bids 4C then 4D 4S will get you there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I prefer 3♠ over 3♣. Partner is still able to rebid 3NT on some hands, when that's the right spot. After 3♠, reaching 6♣ should be easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill1157 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Can South open 1♣ because he has such a shapely hand? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 You should not conceal a 6 card major to bid a 5 card minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Can South open 1♣ because he has such a shapely hand? Bill The advice in the Berkowitz/Manley book is only to upgrade 15-count one-suiters. Two-suiters may become impossible to show after a 1♣ opening if opps interfere. Of course this is a case for not opening 1♣ with 2-suiters at all. But with 16 points at least you have a slightly higher safety level and/or more defense than with 15. This hand has more playing strength than a random 16-count 5-5, but OTOH the extra shape makes it more likely that opps will interfere. Then again, it is difficult to express this playing strength without having opened 1♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill1157 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 no one is to blame, just nobody took an agressive view of the hand. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman5757 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 N is to blame. S's bidding is textbook Precision showing a strong, shapely 14-15 (maybe even a bad 16), and I agree with others that N has an easy 3♠ call, which is probably the best way to reach slam. I wouldn't even bid 3NT at MPs. I also agree that it's not a good idea to upgrade two suiters in order to open 1♣ unless you've really got some sophisticated tools to handle the auction thereafter. In fact, you could give S the ♠ J and the ♥ J and I'd bid it exactly as shown, altho others might choose to open 1♣. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 3NT is idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Echo the disgust for 3N. 3N falls into a special class of bids. It simply isn't a bad bid. It shows total disdain for your judgment and is a partnership wrecker. 3♠ is totally clear. Pard has denied four spades, so this initially focuses on the diamond problem (and may have bigger things in mind), but also lets the South hand re-evaluate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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