rogerclee Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 IMPs, Red vs White, Fourth Seat ♠Kxx ♥T9x ♦KQx ♣KQT9 (2♥) - Dbl - (P) - ? If you bid 3♥ (how do you play this? for us it was a general force), partner will bid 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Do you use leb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted March 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Do you use leb? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Guess it depends how you play it then but to me 3H denies 4+ spades so I would bid 4S now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Playing with somebody that would double on the rag I would, I settle for a "good" 3♣. (Edit: Nah, having thought about, I wont bid 3♣, simply to pessimistic.) If I feel my hand is to good for this, it is 2NT followed by 3NT, showing a gameforcing balanced hand without a stopper. (I play virtually the same Lebensohl here, as I do in 1NT - (2♠) - ?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Obviously anyone can follow their agreements. If I don't have any useful ones I'll bid 4♣ over 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 To me, 3h shows a game force with more than one place to play, and no stopper. I actually have no interest in 3n on this hand, as it's easy to imagine 5c playing better even if partner has ♥Ax/Kx (something as mundane as QJxx Kx Axx AJxx. Trade a small diamond for a small club, and I think I'd still rather be in 5c). It seems right to bid 4c over 3h, assuming that's forcing. If partner bids 4d, i'll bid 5c, and I think I will get to diamonds if and only if partner has 5 of them. Of course if partner bids 4s I'll pass. If 4c is NF, I'll just bid 5c (either now or over x, I don't really know the difference without a clear agreement about 3h). I'm willing to gamble on game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 I make my systemic bid to show game values without either a heart stop or four spades. In most of my partnerships that's 3♥ (cue bids ask for a stop; 3NT bids show a stop; via Lebensohl shows the unbid major). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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