inquiry Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 [hv=d=e&v=n&n=sqj62hk7632d5ca87&s=shaj5da942ckq9652]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - - 2♠ 3♣ 3♠ 3NT Pass 4♠ Dbl 6♣ Pass Pass Pass 2♠ showed exactly 5 ♠ (edited to reflect this after several replies) and a minor suit (4+), less than an opening hand. Opening lead was ♦3 to the ♦K and your ♦ACE. What is your line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 Just thinking about this quickly, I am going to duck a H at trick 2 and play for H 3-2 and C 3-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 East has 6♠ and 3♦ so he is either 2♥ + 2♣ or 1♥+3♣ Only way to protect to first option is to try a red suit squeeze, the problem is West will win the ♥Q if we try to finese and give his aprtner a ruff, or alternativelly cash a ♦ (if we drawed trumps), only way to catter this option is to play for a bare ♥10 in East (or a failed cocodrile when bare ♥9), and to do it you need to play it from your hand at trick 2. [hv=n=sqj62hk7632d5ca87&w=sxxxhq984dq10763cx&e=sxxxxxxh10dkj8cxxx&s=shaj5da942ckq9652]399|300|[/hv] East wins ♥10 (playing ♥Q doesnt help) and can´t do anything better than return a ♣, you win ♣A, and cross ruff ♠+♦, before playing trumps, and west is squeezed in ♥+♦ If ♥ happen to be 3-2 you have an easy way to 12 tricks still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnszsun Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 I believe East's 2♠ is Muiderberg, so he has 5 ♠s and 4 or 5♦s.I will start to cross-ruff in ♦ and ♠, If ♦s are 4-4, i will ruff 3 ♦s and 3 ♠s, cash trump K and Q, if 2-2 i'm ok, if west has 3, play ♥K to dummy and ruff 4th ♠, and cash ♥ A. If East has 5♦s, then West has to pitch one card when i ruff last ♦. if he pithched a ♥ , my plan keeps unchanged, if he pitched a ♠, i ruff 3rd ♠ to return to my hand then play top trumps, if west has 3 trumps i play 3rd trump to try to endplay West (he is left with only ♥s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 Damn, I've seen this hand yesterday, can't reply :o :o But it was a nice hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 If 2♠ is Muiderberg, east has 5 ♠ (I hope !) and 4 or 5♦. So, general principle is to ruff the ♦ and endplaying west in trump (hoping he has not more than 3). So I take the lead, ♦ ruff , ♠ ruff , ♦ ruff, ♠ ruff, ♦ ruff with the ace : If west follows then ♠ ruff, two top trumps and trump endplaying west who has to play ♥ If west throw a ♥ : same line if west throw a ♠, i come back to hand with the ace of ♥ and I endplay west in trump hoping he has ♥Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 ups... sorry, I missed 2♠ explanation. Delete that post Ben!. Joker´s line looks good, I can´t find anything better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlPurple Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 easiest line seems to be: win DA, d-ruff, s-ruff, d-ruff, s-ruff, d-ruff, s-ruff If West hasn't discarded a spade on the last diamond ruff then cross to HK and ruff the last spade, then take top 2 trumps and the top heart and concede the last trick. This would happen if West was 4-3-4-2 or 4-2-4-3 to start and East was 5-2-4-2 or 5-3-4-1. If West did discard a spade on the last diamond ruff the cash the top 2 trumps and if West has 3 throw him in and he must lead a heart. The contract appears to be unmakable if West started with 4-4-4-1 and East with 5-1-4-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 I would look on opps CC and see what their leads are. Mike B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hi Ben, you forgot to post the full hand and solution here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hi Fluffy, Sorry for not publishing full hand. Didn't think the actual hand was all that interesting. First, yes 2♠ was muilderberg, showing exactly 5♠'s of 4+ in either minor (presumably ♦'s). But here is is.... [hv=d=e&v=n&n=sqj62hk7632d5ca87&w=sat84hq98dq83cjt4&e=sk9753ht4dkjt76c3&s=shaj5da942ckq9652]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]West North East South - - 2♠ 3♣ 3♠ 3NT Pass 4♠ Dbl 6♣ Pass Pass Pass Ok, this hand was played by a “self- proclaimed expert”, who went down in a very easy contract. He won ♦A, cashed ♣K, then ruffed a ♦, after which he had no play. Pretty much any of the lines above would work, for instances ron's duck a ♥ at trick 2 (i would ruff a ♦ and hook, but ok). Crossruffing the hand (three diamonds in dummy, three spades in hand) can lead to some interesting endings, for instance, you can overcome a 4-1 heart split, if clubs are 2-2 and West has JT of clubs or Jx and fails to unblock. But that is the hard way. The basic idea is to duck a ♥ (you can combine with ♥ hook first round, so that the ♥K will be entry to dummy. Plan to win 1♦, 6♣, 2♦ ruffs, and four ♥, but of course you might lose 1♥ and win only 12 tricks. Setting up ♥ while maintaining the ♥ entry to dummy seems a good way to attack the hand. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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