Hanoi5 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 R/W, you receive: xKJ8xAQTxKQJx It goes:Pass Pass 1♦ ??? It's a teams event against weak opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Easy pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 1♥ Pass is tempting, and "distributional correct", but in sequences like: (Pass) - Pass - (1♦) - Pass(1♠) - Pass -(2♠) - X(Pass) - ??? partner will Lebensohl on to many hands where we have game, or he might be pre-empted by 3♠ from responder, or by opponents bidding up to 3♦ (which might not be the party it looks like.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 R/W, you receive: xKJ8xAQTxKQJx It goes:Pass Pass 1♦ ??? It's a teams event against weak opposition. 1NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I dbl and have an easy 1NT rebid in case partner bids 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 R/W I'm not passing, but I would at W/R. Maybe Michael's pard's balance lighter than mine :P Put me down for 1N and bidding 2N over a 2♥ xsfr, which should be an offshape 1N overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I would pass. Always. If I didn't pass, because I'd run out of pass cards or something, I would bid 1NT and complete a transfer to 2S (if partner wants to play in 2S the 5-1 fit is probably no worse than anything else). I don't see the point of overcalling 1H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I dbl and have an easy 1NT rebid in case partner bids 1♠. How would you bid this hand: KxxKJxxAQxAQx ? Most people play that doubling then rebidding NT shows a balanced hand too strong to overcall on the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 R/W I'm not passing, but I would at W/R. Maybe Michael's pard's balance lighter than mine :P No, he doesn't balance lighter than everybody else.Put me down for 1N and bidding 2N over a 2♥ xsfr, which should be an offshape 1N overcall.But he does like to bid spades, though. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I usually pass these hands. 1NT if my spade singleton were AKQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 R/W I'm not passing, but I would at W/R. Maybe Michael's pard's balance lighter than mine :P No, he doesn't balance lighter than everybody else. On a few occasions he does. :D Anyway, the risk of being passed out, and it being wrong, is virtually non-existant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I dbl and have an easy 1NT rebid in case partner bids 1♠. How would you bid this hand:KxxKJxxAQxAQx? Most people play that doubling then rebidding NT shows a balanced hand too strong to overcall on the first round. Good point! I will probably bid the same and get in trouble. But a very weak partner will not move over 1NT, a strongish partner would have jumped over my dbl and if partner bids a 2nd suit I hope that my next decision is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Anyway, the risk of being passed out, and it being wrong, is virtually non-existant. Will pard reopen r/w on: Axxxx, xx, xxx, Axx, KJx, Qxx, xxx, Axxx, KQxx, xx, xxx, Axxx I'm not saying passing won't work out, but to say that 1♦ - float is a non-existent problem isn't being objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Anyway, the risk of being passed out, and it being wrong, is virtually non-existant. Will pard reopen r/w on: Axxxx, xx, xxx, Axx, KJx, Qxx, xxx, Axxx, KQxx, xx, xxx, Axxx I'm not saying passing won't work out, but to say that 1♦ - float is a non-existent problem isn't being objective.These are all easy re-openers. If you change the ♣A into the King, I would consider them to be minimum. (I'd probably re-open on worse thrash than that, but I would feel like an overbidder.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Anyway, the risk of being passed out, and it being wrong, is virtually non-existant. Will pard reopen r/w on: Axxxx, xx, xxx, Axx, KJx, Qxx, xxx, Axxx, KQxx, xx, xxx, Axxx I'm not saying passing won't work out, but to say that 1♦ - float is a non-existent problem isn't being objective. It's not a non-existent problem.(Partner will certainly reopen on the first of your sample, might on the second and probably won't on the third) But as long as we pass quickly and happily, we have less of a problem if we are playing one of those people who respond on 'nothing' at favourable vulnerability. Plenty of forum regulars would suggest that J10xxx xx Qxx xxx is a 1S response to 1D at w/r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Anyway, the risk of being passed out, and it being wrong, is virtually non-existant. I'm not saying passing won't work out, but to say that 1♦ - float is a non-existent problem isn't being objective.Okay, maybe I was a little, but just a little, fast. So let me rephrase: I bid 1♥, not because I fear that the opponents will pass, but because I fear they will bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 But as long as we pass quickly and happily, we have less of a problem if we are playing one of those people who respond on 'nothing' at favourable vulnerability. Plenty of forum regulars would suggest that J10xxx xx Qxx xxx is a 1S response to 1D at w/r. Yes LOL. Isn't it odd that we are much better placed if our opponent bids, rather than passes? Still, I am concerned about getting to 3N after ...pass...(1♠) - pass - (2♠), double, since we could have a weaker hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Anyway, the risk of being passed out, and it being wrong, is virtually non-existant. Will pard reopen r/w on: Axxxx, xx, xxx, Axx, KJx, Qxx, xxx, Axxx, KQxx, xx, xxx, Axxx I'm not saying passing won't work out, but to say that 1♦ - float is a non-existent problem isn't being objective. It's not a non-existent problem.(Partner will certainly reopen on the first of your sample, might on the second and probably won't on the third) But as long as we pass quickly and happily, we have less of a problem if we are playing one of those people who respond on 'nothing' at favourable vulnerability. Plenty of forum regulars would suggest that J10xxx xx Qxx xxx is a 1S response to 1D at w/r. I generally agree with all of Frances' posts on this thread. I am one of the regulars who advocates a light response to a 1m opening when blessed with a 5 card major but I would add that I, and I suspect some others of similar inclinations, do treat 3rd and 4th seat openings differently than 1st and 2nd. For one thing, I usually play variable notrump, and so there is an appreciable risk opposite a 1st or 2nd seat opener that passing gets us to our 3-3 (or 3-2 or even 2-2 if he opens 1♣ on 4=4=3=2 hands) misfit rather than to our 9 card major. In addition, if we play 12-14 or 11-14, and I catch a big hand with a fit, he won't go nuts on me.. a raise to 2M includes most 15-17 balanced hands with 4 card support, so if he bounces higher, we rate to make. For another, we tend to open 4 card majors quite frequently in 3rd and 4th seat, especially hearts. So there is less risk of missing a good fit by passing (not: no risk... we open 4 card majors only if we do not anticipate being able to reach game opposite a passed hand.. so we may still miss a major, but it is less common than after a 1st or 2nd seat opening) Sorry for the threadjack. But I agree with pass... over the opening bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I would also pass. My guess is that if it goes all pass then we are more often in a good spot than in a bad spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I learned to pass these hands. I don't like ending up in a 5-1 fit at 2-level while it's not necessary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 R/W, you receive: xKJ8xAQTxKQJx It goes:Pass Pass 1♦ ??? It's a teams event against weak opposition. Good post. Pass. I thought this was a tough one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I would pass. If I overcall 1NT, partner will probably transfer to my singleton. If he doesn't, they have an eight-card fit there, so I'd have been better off passing and waiting to make a takeout double. Overcalling 1♥ just creates awkward guesses about what level to play at, which suit to play in, and what to do at trick two in a heart contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Easy pass for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 The main downside of 1 NT is the singelton in spade. But when they do not have a fit there and my partner has 5+, the chance that we play in spades is still there. He may balance into 2 Spade anyway. (Of course this chance is significant smaller then after we bid 1 NT). And what will happen, when they have a 4/4 spade fit? Maybe they won't even find it, which seems to be a success too. And as a last point: When we play 2 Spade in a 5-1 fit, at least partners hand will take some tricks. This may not be true in any other contract. So, a confident 1 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Easy 1H bid for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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