twcho Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 You hold: 109xx Q AKQ9 Q109x, white vs red, impThe bidding go: Pass - (4♥) - ?Will you double? Will your decision change if vul changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Double. It does not take much to make a game (or to have a profitable sacrifice) in any of the other three suits, and if partner can pass 4♥x, I expect to beat it (but I would not be shocked to have it make). Opposite as little as: QJxxx xxx xxx Kx you will make 9 tricks in 4♠. Whether you beat 4♥ or not is going to be very close. If partner has a bit more, say: KQxxx xxx xxx Kx You are likely to make 4♠, and you may not beat 4♥. This is somewhat dangerous, since partner is a passed hand and LHO is an unknown quantity. But there is so much to gain by doubling that you must try. Same decision at other vuls. If anything, the decision is clearer red vs. white (but also more dangerous). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Partner is a passed hand which makes this an easy pass. Whether partner passes a double or bids over it, that could so easily be a disaster. Frankly if he passed the double there are times they would make 7. If partner weren't a passed hand I would consider this a close pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Pass since partner is a passed hand. Double otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Pass since partner is a passed hand. Double otherwise. agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 agree with the abovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Partner is a passed hand, I will pass. If partner is unpassed, depending on my opponents I will Double or Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Double for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twcho Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 So far no one mentions about whether one's decision will be different under different vulnerability. Any input for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 agree with the abovers. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Pass. Second seat vul versus not-vul is never crazy unless the bidder is crazy. I expect them to make so the only reason to act is to look for a sac but I am not that desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 So far no one mentions about whether one's decision will be different under different vulnerability. Any input for that? I don't think it matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I think we need more to double in direct seat, especially when partner is a balanced hand. Let me preempt those that claim it doesn't matter whether we are in direct seat or balancing seat, I think it does. The point is not that we should keep the bidding open in the balancing seat. The point is that our values are better placed if we have a decent hand with heart shortness in balancing seat. For example, suppose we hold short hearts and partner holds KJx. If we are in direct seat then we likely have no heart tricks, if we are in balancing seat then we likely have 2 heart tricks. Another example: if we have KJxx x AQxx KJxx then all possible side suit finesses are likely to be onside. (of course this is a clear double anyway.) On the actual hand it doesn't matter too much, I just think the hand has too little potential, both on offense and defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Double for me. We may make something, or we may not, or the ops may guess wrong. 2 ways to win and maybe 1 to lose. It's not quite that simple, but it seems right to act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petergreat Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Give me another K and I will double. As it is I'll pass for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Easy pass for me. Just consider an average 7 hcp hand for partner with fit (let's consider for example ♠ fit) and see what happens. We simply usually don't have enough for making, double may work only in finding a sacrifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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