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I dont seem to be able to find the option to change the language. (I know I can change it by changing the default language of my browser). But as I am not always on my own pc..that's not practical.

 

There isn't an option to change the language. You can start it with a language you specify by visiting

 

http://www.bridgebase.com/client/client.php?lang=fr

 

http://www.bridgebase.com/client/client.php?lang=ja

 

etc.

 

The currently supported langs are

 

bg cs da de el en es fi fr he hr hu is it ja nl no pl pt ro ru sv tr zh-CN zh-TW

 

list of lang codes here, if you care.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-1_codes

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I would quite like to be able to pop up a bit more detail about the table at which a friend is playing, before I make a decision to leave where I am and join the table. Info such as

1) Location/area of table ("playing at a public table" is not detailed enough for my liking)

2) Who is the table host, and who are the other players.

3) Do I need host's permission to join

There are doubtless a few more parameters which would most of the time be of no interest but just occasionally would be useful to know.

 

One way to achieve this would be to replace the "join table" button against a player's name with "display table" button, which would then show all the table details, including who is sitting where, which club, permission requirements, number of kibitzers, type of scoring etc, ie pretty much what you get to see at one level above the table in the Windows client, and then within THAT pop-up display there would be a "join table" button.

 

That would mean 2 mouse-clicks instead of 1 if you know that you really want to join the table, which is a downside. An alternative solution would be to have two buttons on the first screen: "Join table" and "display table properties", the latter of which would also have a "join table" option within it. So the 1-click shortcut would still be there. Downside to THAT solution is a slight cluttering of the interface. At the moment it would not be too cluttered, but you may have plans for introducing more features on that pane which would compete for space.

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2) Who is the table host, and who are the other players.

I'll second this one. When looking through my list of friends trying to find a table to kibitz, it would be real nice to be able to see who was playing at the table.

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It would also be quite nice to have another option in the menu bar at the top of the table window. I mean where you currently have just the three options (orange background on my machine) "Back", "home" and "log off", I would like another option "Up", which would take you up one level in the tree. This would have the same effect as "back" *IF* you used the tree structure to navigate to your current location in the first place. However, if you got there by joining a friend, and you just want to view the other tables in the same club, then "back" takes you "home" (or wherever) and you have to wade through the tree, where a single mouseclick would suffice in my suggestion.
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Is there a bug?

 

Partnership bidding practice-click to view

 

Explanation of the bid of 5H is not visible completely in the bidding practice.

When saved as hand viewer link then only, it is visible.

 

Further, the explanation not agreeing with the hand pattern and point count.

 

When undo is done at 4NT, the bidding explanation disappears.

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When I try to load played hands in the option menu,

 

I click on recent tournaments, my hands, it loads board 1, it is not clear how to load the follow up hands.

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I dont seem to be able to find the option to change the language. (I know I can change it by changing the default language of my browser). But as I am not always on my own pc..that's not practical.

 

There isn't an option to change the language. You can start it with a language you specify by visiting

 

http://www.bridgebase.com/client/client.php?lang=fr

 

http://www.bridgebase.com/client/client.php?lang=ja

 

etc.

 

The currently supported langs are

 

bg cs da de el en es fi fr he hr hu is it ja nl no pl pt ro ru sv tr zh-CN zh-TW

 

list of lang codes here, if you care.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-1_codes

Thx but,

 

1) I didnt find anything about the ?lang option in the help files.

 

2) maybe it would be easyer to have it in the options menu,

like it is in winbbo (options->general->language)

 

yvan

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A thing that I don't find very intuitive is understanding which panes get updated "live" by the server, ie without requiring any action on my part to refresh, and which required me to refresh. Just a general point.

If there's no Refresh button, it gets updated automatically. If there's a button, you have to use it.

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1) you can not chat privately to ur bidding partner; u can in the windows client

2) when you resize the main window (make it smaller) and then click on the dealer source button, the dealer source window isnt being repositioned...when u have a big screen..it's possible you do not see the dealer source window at all!

3) I guess it's not possible to set the vul/dealer position?

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I note that in the Windows client you had an opportunity to kibitz all 4 hands when dummy. Or you could choose to kibitz only declarer's hand (and dummy's, of course) when dummy. As far as I can tell, the web client only allows you the latter option.

 

Arguably, dummy should only be permitted the opportunity to view his own (dummy's) hand during the play, but for as long as the software permits you the opportunity to kibitz declarer it is difficult to see why the opportunity to kibitz all 4 hands is denied.

 

In a social setting, I can see one benefit to kibitzing only declarer ... in the event of a disconnection of declarer from the server, dummy can swap seats with declarer and finish playing out the hand without being privy to all 4 hands. Incidentally, does the software deny this option to windows client users if they have seen all 4 hands? I never bothered to check.

 

I know that this thread is not about the windows client, but one thing I noticed is that the GIB double-dummy analyser is not available to dummy even when he selects the option to view all 4 hands. I thought it should be available. If this is a feature to be introduced into the web client it may be worth bearing in mind, so not wholly irrelevant to this thread after all, perhaps.

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This is wonderful!

 

I think the way to open a bidding table is not very intuitive.

I second both of these.

Even knowing partnership bidding was there, I couldn't find it and hand to come back to this forum thread to work out where it was.

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This is wonderful!

 

I think the way to open a bidding table is not very intuitive.

I second both of these.

Even knowing partnership bidding was there, I couldn't find it and hand to come back to this forum thread to work out where it was.

I agree.

 

Mose constructively, I would add an option under the "help me find a game" tab. This was the first place I looked when I was trying to open a bidding table.

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Also, the placement of the "reset" button under "deal source" is too prominent - to me the position it's in is more in keeping with a confirm button, so a couple of times I've clicked there rather than just close the dialogue box.
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When the content of a window is too voluminous to fit in the window (typical example would be viewing all of the full tables in the main public club), then you get a vertical scroll bar to allow you to slide the viewable area. So far, so good.

 

A point that irritates me is that if you drag the slider on the scroll bar, the window being scrolled does not update until you release the scroll bar. The window moves dynamically if you click on the up or down arrows at either end of the scroll bar, but not if you click on the slider itself and drag it.

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A thing that I don't find very intuitive is understanding which panes get updated "live" by the server, ie without requiring any action on my part to refresh, and which required me to refresh.  Just a general point.

If there's no Refresh button, it gets updated automatically. If there's a button, you have to use it.

I am not convinced.

 

I have just been kibitzing a table, and as an experiment I asked a "friend" also to kibitz the same table. My screen was set to display kibitzers. When the friend joined it did NOT refresh to show the kibitzer, although some aspects of that pane were being updated live, because above the displayed list was a count of the number of players online, which count was continuously changing without my prompting.

 

There is no refresh button to display the kibitzers. However changing the view to show stars or friends, and then back to kibitzers, did have the effect of refreshing the displayed kibitzers.

 

I then asked said friend to leave the table altogether, which he did. However he still appeared in the display of kibitzers. Until I navigated away to display friends, then back to kibitzers - and the name had gone.

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When the content of a window is too voluminous to fit in the window (typical example would be viewing all of the full tables in the main public club), then you get a vertical scroll bar to allow you to slide the viewable area.  So far, so good.

 

A point that irritates me is that if you drag the slider on the scroll bar, the window being scrolled does not update until you release the scroll bar.   The window moves dynamically if you click on the up or down arrows at either end of the scroll bar, but not if you click on the slider itself and drag it.

A related point that I am not sure about: When you click on the arrow at either end of the scroll bar, or if you drag and release the slider, it would be nice if the completion of that act also triggered a refresh. That would only be of any use provided that refreshing did not also shove you back up to the top of the display, of course.

 

Also, I note that moving the slider on the scroll bar does indeed dynamically update the display intantaneously during its travel along the scroll bar when you are viewing the list of tournaments. It just does not do it when viewing the list of tables in the main club.

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It took me a long time to find the "show played cards" option in the web client, by right-clicking. I figured it would be under the main "Options" menu.

I think that's because you can set the option differently for the main playing area and the movie window below "My Results".

 

Although I notice that this is also true for pictures of cards vs hand diagram, yet this is in the main Options menu (but it only affects the main playing area).

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A thing that I don't find very intuitive is understanding which panes get updated "live" by the server, ie without requiring any action on my part to refresh, and which required me to refresh.  Just a general point.

If there's no Refresh button, it gets updated automatically. If there's a button, you have to use it.

I am not convinced.

 

I have just been kibitzing a table, and as an experiment I asked a "friend" also to kibitz the same table. My screen was set to display kibitzers. When the friend joined it did NOT refresh to show the kibitzer, although some aspects of that pane were being updated live, because above the displayed list was a count of the number of players online, which count was continuously changing without my prompting.

 

There is no refresh button to display the kibitzers. However changing the view to show stars or friends, and then back to kibitzers, did have the effect of refreshing the displayed kibitzers.

 

I then asked said friend to leave the table altogether, which he did. However he still appeared in the display of kibitzers. Until I navigated away to display friends, then back to kibitzers - and the name had gone.

I think the "Who's Online" lists may update periodically, not immediately. I'm watching the Vanderbilt Vugraph now, and I've seen the Stars and Kibitzers lists change occasionally.

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A couple observations after watching vugraph with the web client today.

 

1) The contrast between the color of private chat (green) and public chat (blue) is not strong. It would be nice for the user to be able to set these colors. And, to have the option of also setting automated messages in a different color.

 

2) I miss the ability to see what other tables are active. In the windows client there is an option to see tables or lobby/friends at the top of the chat window. When there are multiple vugraph tables open, or when you kibitzing at one while waiting for another to start, this is a nice option.

 

Tim

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I found a little bug in partnership bidding today. When you play with robots, and you alert your bid, then the robot on the left stops working (or works very very very slow). I don't know if it's a glitch or a permanent bug.
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I found a little bug in partnership bidding today. When you play with robots, and you alert your bid, then the robot on the left stops working (or works very very very slow). I don't know if it's a glitch or a permanent bug.

david_c posted the same bug above. He said that the problem occurs when you alert but don't enter an explanation.

 

Why do you bother alerting when you're playing against bots, anyway? Just practicing?

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