ArtK78 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 You are playing in a BBO ACBL matchpoint pair game with a good player who you have not played with in 20 years. Even then, you only played together on a couple of occasions (once was in the Spingold). Several boards into the game, you pick up: [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sqxhkj9xxxxdxxcxx]133|100|Scoring: MP1♠ - (2♦) - ?[/hv] 1) What does 3♥ mean in this sequence (your basic structure is 2/1, and you did not have any real discussion of methods)? 2) What is your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I guess without discussion and with someone who hasn't played in 20 years I would call this a weak jump shift. That's what I'd bid because that's what I have. Nice hand for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Pass then 3♥. I haven't discussed an immeadiate 3♥ bid with most of my partners, however I wouldn't want to risk it being taken as a splinter, besides I ave too much to make a WJO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 This is tough. I think modern practice is 3♥ and 4♣ are likely to be fit bids, but expect that some would think 3♥, 4♣ and 4♦ were splinters. Without discussion, I think they should all be natural, but expect that most good players would assume some conventional meaning. Regardless, 4♥ would be natural. If I were going to act, I would bid 4♥ to avoid potential confusion. I think it's close, but think I would bid 4♥ at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I guess without discussion and with someone who hasn't played in 20 years I would call this a weak jump overcall. That's what I'd bid because that's what I have. Nice hand for it. I didn't say that my partner has not played in 20 years - I said that we have not played as a partnership in 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdaming Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't think this will be the end of the auction lets pass now and get back in later as that will surely not be a splinter. We might even be supporting ♠ later. In all hoesty we will probably be jumping back in with a big ♥ bid then p will get the picture. I think our hand is too good to be prempting. This could still be our hand points wise if not surely distribution wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 PASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fachiru Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 To me, without prior discusion on methods:_X=4+♥, 8hcp or so_2♥=normal 5+ suit, forcing_3♥=preempt, just like the hand given. This is my bid._4♥=splinter. I guess you could X (or pass) then try to bid ♥, but see these options inferior to an immediate, highly descriptive 3♥ bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 To me, without prior discussion on methods, x = take-out, usually 4 hearts but can be longer if weak2H = natural, inv values, forcing for 1 round (not promising a rebid)4H = to play. Repeat after me: In unclear situations, game is to play. 3H = no idea. I play it as fit with most people, but when playing with someone I haven't played with a long time, who knows? With e.g. most English juniors I'd assume fit; with the pensioners at my local club I'd assume a strong jump shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I'd just bid 2♥, not risking any misinterpretation. If you moved my queen to a minor then I would be tempted to bring out the undiscussed bid, but here I feel like I'm not absurdly far away from having the right values for the 2♥ bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 You are playing in a BBO ACBL matchpoint pair game with a good player who you have not played with in 20 years. Even then, you only played together on a couple of occasions (once was in the Spingold). Several boards into the game, you pick up: [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sqxhkj9xxxxdxxcxx]133|100|Scoring: MP1♠ - (2♦) - ?[/hv] 1) What does 3♥ mean in this sequence (your basic structure is 2/1, and you did not have any real discussion of methods)? 2) What is your call? 1) I bid 3h.....this guy played in the spingold. 1b) 2h must be natural and 100% forcing with no discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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