xx1943 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=n&e=sjhqj865dkj2cj953&s=s10762hak9da1087cq7]266|200|Scoring: IMPN E S W1♠ p 2N p4♠ p p p[/hv]1) Declarer takes your ♥Q lead in dummy, partner contributes the 7.2) small ♠ from dummy to declarers Q, partner produces the 3.3) Declarer plays ♣A partner contributes the 2. 4) Declarer leads ♠Q to partners A while you discard a ♥.5) Partner plays the ♥10 taken in dummy.6) ♣Q is ruffed in declarers hand.7) Declarer leads a ♠ to ♠10, partner follows suit while you discard another ♥.8) Declarer follows suit when he leads ♥9 to your J while partner discards ♣4 Here you may look the play interactive. Now it seems you are endplayed:1) ♥ is triple void and allows declarer a ruff and discard.2) ♣ is double void and allows declarer a ruff and discard.3) ♦ seems the best hoping that partner holds the Q. What do you play and why? Advanced and experts as usual please answer HIDDEN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Although I agree there is a clearly correct answer, perhaps this would be better posed as a declarer play problem, because I think declarer should make the contract anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 What was my club discard? If declarer has an exact count, I don't see how he can misplay this. But if I gave an incorrect count in clubs, maybe declarer thinks I have 0-2 more clubs? I agree that declarer has the Q♦ for his bid. Declarer and dummy are both 1040 now. Both sides need diamond tricks - we need 2, declarer needs 3. Partner has 0023 and I have 0131. If I lead the J♦ and declarer plays me for having only 2, declarer will duck to the queen and make. If I lead the K♦, declarer makes straight off. The play of the 2♦ seems inconsistent with the club count we've given. The only reason I can think of for playing this way is if I have the K2, since leading the King is so obviously wrong. This might entice declarer to play the ace, then duck a diamond to my presumed king, which would be great. But why wouldn't I play a heart then? Club is right out, as it gives the miscount away. Declarer is always taking the 4th diamond round, so giving a ruff and sluff is meaningless. But how does declarer play a heart exit, with a presumed 3-2 diamond split the other way? If partner is KJx, I *think* declarer wins in dummy, cashes the ace, then runs a diamond towards the queen. This also works with Kxx in west, but fails when I hold Kx. (An immediate diamond to the queen endplays me AGAIN, but declarer shouldnt' do that if he thinks I have 2 diamonds.) Blargh. ... I think my best play is to exit a heart, and hope declarer misguesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Heart, conceding ruff/sluff. I think declarer is 5341. If pard has Qx of diamonds, we're always getting 2 diamond tricks. If declarer has Qxxx, won't he play ace then small to the queen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Curious as to the answer, and declarer's "best line". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpace Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I think the answer is to not return a ♦. It is probably better to return a heart as declarer knows that you have it and it won't give him any extra information. Declarer's best line is to ruff in dummy, throwing a ♦ from hand, then play a ♦ to Q, planning to play a ♦ to T later (after coming in with his last trump). (Frances had started a thread in the A/E forum about declarer's best play: http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=30680) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Well I'm at least glad to see that they're not finding the diamond endplay trivial either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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