ewj Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=skqt9xxhqxdqt9xck]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] You open 1♠, LHO bids 3♦ weak and partner bids 4♦.Strong NT, 5 card majors....are you worth anything more than 4♠. Would you consider 4♥ if you hadn't agreed it as anything special? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Holding ♣K and ♥Qx you don't have any extras, you hardly have your opening. The ♦Q is also not helpful. 4♠ is the only bid to consider now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 If I hadn't agreed 4♥ as anything special, I'd expect it to be interpreted as a cue bid. If 4♥ were Last Train, I think it would be an overbid, assuming that 4♦ doesn't promise more than a high card raise to game. It's all very well picturing AJ9x Axxx x Axxx, but partner might move with something rather less suitable than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Pd may even move anway with Andys hand, he can see that I have zero first round controls outside diamonds. I would need a least KQT9xx,Kx,Qxxx,A to make another move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I'm undecided. On one hand you have a minimum, length and wasted values in your LHO's suit and no aces. On the other hand, you have a 6th spade, all your honours except for the ♦Q are still working. (Unlike others, I think the ♣K and ♥Qx are very useful values if partner has the aces required for slam.) Assuming we play 4♥ as a general slam try rather than specifically a cue, I'm still going to bid 4♠, but if partner has 3 bullets and the heart K (or a ♦ void instead of one of those) it's not hard for him to picture you with what you have and make another slam try, in which case I will co-operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 The hand has some pluses and some minuses. The pluses are 6th spade and 6-4 shape, with reduces the number of losers in rounded suits. The big minus is the low number of controls and the low number of usefull hcp's. Even if you play 4♥ as LT, bidding 4♥ with that hand will more often lead to a negative score rather than to a positive one. Just remeber 4♦ doesn't promise ♦ shortage or tons of HCP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 4♠To make a slam partner must look at 3 aces or 2 and a ♦ void.If that is so he'll know what to do. For now I'm happy when 4♠ makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 ok... Take a look at this 5 point hand that we opened :)... K♣ is wasted, Q♦ is wasted, Q♥ is wasted. Partner has to have some outside values, but it would take an awful lot to make slam. I think this is a fairly easy 4♠, and with anything that we can make slam opposite, partner will bid again I would hope. Also... What if partner has Kx♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I think this is a fairly easy pass, I don't think partner is going to enjoy playing 4♦ :) :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I think this is a fairly easy pass, I don't think partner is going to enjoy playing 4♦ :angry: :) Our trump support is sufficent and we won't get doubled, nice spot. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 4S / No Ace -- Partner still may pull with 4N if needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I think this is a fairly easy pass, I don't think partner is going to enjoy playing 4♦ B) :P LOL, typo... I fixed it now :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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