qwery_hi Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 In the auction : 1C - 1H - X - P2S - , would 2S show a hand that would have raised a 1S response to 2S absent the intervention, or would it show a stronger hand since opener could have bid 1S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Stronger, although I'd say not as strong as e.g. 1m-1M-3M in an unconstested auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 By agreement and I'm assuming that x = exactly 4♠. Some play that 2♠ shows more than a minimum and 1♠ shows a dead minimum. A better agreement is that 1♠ shows 3 cards and 2♠ is 4 cards and any minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Stronger than 1♠, but not strong enough to cuebid 2♥... Usually a hand that would have jumped to 3♠ over a 1♠ response imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwery_hi Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Yes, I should clarify that X there showed 4 spades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 It's by agreement, neither way is really standard in the sense you could assume it with a good random partner. I would say Adam's way is the old fashioned way and Phil's is the more modern way, and people are trending more to it. I agree with him that it's better. Edit: Just to clarify, the Adam to whom I referred was mtvesuvius, not awm. And the Phil was Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 For me, 1♠ is normally three spades or a 4333 hand. In either case it will often be that spades is not our best contract (4333 hands sometimes play better in notrump despite 4-4 fit). The jump to 2♠ shows four-card support and also indicates suitability for playing in spades. This doesn't really show extras, although I suppose a 4(23)4 twelve-count is now better than a minimum because of the trump fit and the doubleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwery_hi Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Great stuff! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 In the auction : 1C - 1H - X - P2S - , would 2S show a hand that would have raised a 1S response to 2S absent the intervention, or would it show a stronger hand since opener could have bid 1S? Nonexpert response: 1) I would assume x=4spades..very very often2) I would assume jump to 2s =around 16-18....and 4s.3) I would assume with 3s and minimum partner is stuck trying her best to not bid one spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 The old fashioned way is that 2♠ is stronger than 1♠. And that's how I've played it for ages. These days I've changed to 1♠=3, 2♠=4. Normally I play the double as 4+ spades, but I'd play the same responses from opener even if double shows exactly 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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