Trumpace Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I liked the book and would recommend it to others. Here is a hand from the exercises: N/S, E/W playing standard american with standard leads etc. East is dealer and the bidding goes 1D - X - Pass - 2NT Pass - 3H - Pass - 4H All Pass [space] You are south, and West leads the Diamond 2. You see: [hv=d=e&v=n&n=saqhk95dkj943c932&s=skjthajt83d8cq875]133|200|Scoring: Rubberlead ♦2[/hv] You play low from dummy, East wins the ♦Q, cashes AK of clubs and leads club J, you win with Q as West follows. Your contract now depends on locating the trump Q. Who would you pick? (As usual Adv/+ please refrain from posting spoilers too early). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 So east had the AQ♦, the AKJ of clubs, and did not bid the second round even knowing that the promised diamond stop was on her right? I'll say the queen of trump is on my left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Good book. Fun problem. I think I see the answer. Don't think it's been posted yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xx1943 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 South double of 1♦ is a terrible bid. Why not make a noraml 1♥-overcall? So east had the AQ♦, the AKJ of clubs, and did not bid the second round even knowing that the promised diamond stop was on her right? I'll say the queen of trump is on my left.There is no reason to bid at the 3-level, when opponents show combined 24+ HCP with♠xxxx ♥Qx ♦AQxx ♣AKJ But ......(hidden:)this hand had not opened 1♦ but 1NTCould it be, that opener is unbalanced?What do we know about openers distribution?He has exactly 3♣.He has 4♦, because the led ♦2 is not doubleton or singleton and with 3-3 in minors the normal opening is 1♣.He has at most 4♠ and probably at least 3♠, because witha 6-carder rresponder could bid 2♠ weakTherefore his distribution is: 4243 or 3343 or 2443. With 16 HCP he had oned 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 East has: 3 clubs, 4 diamonds (Not 5 because W didn't lead a high diamong, and not 6 because they didn't try to give partner an overruff. E Has the AKJ of clubs, and the AQ of ♦, and 4-2, 2-4, or 3-3 in the majors. That's a 14 count...the only missing high card is the Q♥, which west must have given East's failure to open 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'm completely not buying 1943's spade reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'm completely not buying 1943's spade reasoning. It doesn't matter, you don't need that part of the reasoning. RHO has 3 clubs.RHO can't have a 5 card major.RHO can't have 5 diamonds since the lead from a doubleton would have been high.RHO can't have 6 diamonds since he would play one instead of the third club.So RHO can be 2443, 3343, 4243, or if you think it is possible for a 1♦ opener 4333 or 3433.Those are all completely balanced distributions, so RHO can not have the queen of hearts because it would make 16 hcp and thus would have been a 1NT opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Once again, I miss the full import of the opening lead. Seems to be my achilles heel of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xx1943 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Is it possible that the lead is from Ax2 :blink: and openers hand is xxx, Qxx, Q10xx, AKJ ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Here's a bit of a warped fantasy... Suppose RHO has xx Qx AQ10xxx AKJ.Wouldn't it be amusingly good play to defend how he has done? He can see there is very unlikely to be a trump promotion, so he tells you all about his HCP in the minors and waits for his trump trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xx1943 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Here's a bit of a warped fantasy... Suppose RHO has xx Qx AQ10xxx AKJ.Wouldn't it be amusingly good play to defend how he has done? He can see there is very unlikely to be a trump promotion, so he tells you all about his HCP in the minors and waits for his trump trick. Nice idea, but 1)how many defender would play like this?2) I know a lot of people, who oen even this hand with 1NT. (Esp. in BBO) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Also, how often would this go off when declarer didn't even notice, and partner had the J♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Is it possible that the lead is from Ax2 :angry: and openers hand is xxx, Qxx, Q10xx, AKJ ??Well even if you think it's possible you have no reason to play for it. So it might be interesting to think about, but it doesn't really help solve the problem. Here's a bit of a warped fantasy... Suppose RHO has xx Qx AQ10xxx AKJ.Wouldn't it be amusingly good play to defend how he has done? He can see there is very unlikely to be a trump promotion, so he tells you all about his HCP in the minors and waits for his trump trick. Warped indeed, especially when partner has Jx or Txx of hearts. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Not to go into the hidden text any further, but one of the things I find myself doing when watching/commentating vugraph is spotting lethal false cards that the defence could have found, except that they never do in real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I have not read the book, but this problem looks like an excellent B/I introduction to inferential card-reading. The criticism of the bidding is ill-founded. At the time that this book was first written, overcalls were limited bids, and doubles were normal with anything close to appropriate shape. Anyone interested in reading the book would be well-advised to ignore the bidding, other than for the clues it gives in the play. It is similar to the way in which North Americans have always had to read Kelsey books... arguably the best overall collection of material ever produced by a single writer. His books on team play, where you 'played' a 64 board match, scored in 8 board segments against realistic other table results, were and remain classics. The level of play required was very high but the bidding was very different from what good players did on this side of the pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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