CSGibson Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I think you are picking a needless battle. I mean if done on a large scale under different settings (such as setting myself up outside Walmart and giving everyone all the free groceries they want) I don't even think it would be legal. If the goal is for as many people as possible to learn bridge then why start a contentious situation with the existing teachers? As for your credentials, they may well be true and I certainly don't have an opinion to whether or not they are, but it's exactly the kind of things a terrible teacher could claim to be true whether they are or not. I don't question the nature of your motivation, but I think you would be making a mistake. Btw do you realize this post started another thread at almost the same time you started this one? Karma perhaps? A group of highly acclaimed bridge teachers and I are increasingly concerned that everyone and his/her grandmother can now present themselves as bridge teachers. Let me first say that I do NOT claim to be an expert but after 11 years of teaching online, with accreditation by the ACBL (if that matters or not), I am confident about teaching novices/low intermediates with whom I love to work with. I am also proud that teachers with Bridge Forum (www.bridge-forum.com) are picked not only by me, but by my colleagues. Each has his/her own area of expertise, whether it be Larry Mori (larrymori) John Gowdy (Gowdy) or George Mittelman (mittmouse), all truly World Class players who can teach any level of bridge. But what about those who claim to be what they are not and lead students astray? How does the student know this? And does being a World Class player automatically make you a good teacher? Should there be some accreditation process? I raise these questions, hoping for a fruitful discussion.Caitlin Actually, I saw that post and wanted to get feedback as a result of that post. As for my credentials, I appreciate that it is easy to say what I am saying, but that's not the part I wanted feedback on; I would rather you assume it to be true for the moment and register your opinion from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I want to thank all responders to this post who have given their honest opinions. If I go forward with this, it sounds like it would be a very good idea to talk to the existing bridge teachers in the area and get their thoughts, and possibly collaborate with them in an attempt to funnel students into their classes or local clubs when they graduate from my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I want to thank all responders to this post who have given their honest opinions. If I go forward with this, it sounds like it would be a very good idea to talk to the existing bridge teachers in the area and get their thoughts, and possibly collaborate with them in an attempt to funnel students into their classes or local clubs when they graduate from my own. I agree with you completely here and hope that you are able to start classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Locally, there are several "accredited" bridge teachers (including me). Some of them are actually teaching courses, for pay. Some of those who are doing that don't have a clue about their subject matter. So accreditation, which is easy to come by, isn't really worth much. That said, I think Chris has come to the right conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 A big problem with free bridge lessons for beginners is that many people tend to join them for the simple reason that they are free, rather than from any serious interest to learn the game. A few lessons later, and as they realize that there is quite a lot of work involved learning even elementary bridge, people start dropping out and you will be lucky to end up with 10% attendance at the end. I have seen this at every single free beginners' course given here even by excellent teachers. When people do not pay, there is no commitment! I second that. Also I think most of those who are now paying for a tuition would not join a free class because they suspect there is a reason why it's free. Maybe this could change temporarily because of the economic climate, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I want to thank all responders to this post who have given their honest opinions. If I go forward with this, it sounds like it would be a very good idea to talk to the existing bridge teachers in the area and get their thoughts, and possibly collaborate with them in an attempt to funnel students into their classes or local clubs when they graduate from my own. Yes, this is the right idea. If your classes serve as feeders for other classes or games, they will fully support you. Anytime someone endeavors to make the 'pie' bigger, its great for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Agree with the last 6 posts or so. Which means I agree with myself since I suggested it in my second post. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 When I read the OP, it didn't seem like the other teachers' classes were in the library, just in the local area. At that point, while it is probably best to discuss with the established order (at least in my area, people offering basic courses aren't living off the proceeds; anyone offering pro dates have individual clients or are offering the equivalent of single/partnership tutoring. In other areas of the country, things are different I would guess), I don't think it's a problem, especially if you attempt to funnel the players that stay the course to a local duplicate. More players = more people taking level II classes (and I'm sure you can recommend teachers for that, now that you've discussed the issue with the other teachers in the area), bigger I/N games (so more people to talk about how much fun they're having at this game, and maybe converting one of the "You know, I looked at it, but..." community into taking lessons), and so on. The Hog is going a bit far, given that reading. If Vientiane was Fairview Alberta, and there was only room for one teacher within an hour's commute, then a second one at a different location would certainly be an issue. But it isn't, and I don't think the OP is in that rural an areaa. We aren't talking about undercutting him at his school - just another teacher in the 3/4million metro area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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