the hog Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 A hand from the Yeh Bros Cup currently being played; Aust vs Hampson. JT93T87654AJ3void 1C on your right. All vul. Do you overcall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 No - but I would overcall over a strong NT !! Overcalling works when partner is balanced (therefore a fit) or has a big H fit (4 cards will do very nicely) and we do not overbid...and very badly when he gets either my strength or the lead wrong (yeah T high suit just screamed for the lead....from KJ). Hence I would not overcall over 1natural C directly (but might pre-balance) and certainly WOULD overcall a strong NT where I can show shape and partner will not expect a strong HCP hand... regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 I don't, overcalling is taking a good idea way too far. We have shape, but our suit is terrible, and our hand is quite bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Amusing answer Fred. I guess you know the hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Yes I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 I prefer not. The point is I have supports for all unbid suits. IF pd can show his suit, I will be very happy to raise. However, bidding a suit and then raising pd's suit should show a better hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 No right or wrong answer - just interestedMeckstroth overcalled and bought a 4H raise, which was doubled and made. At the other table Grue opened an offshape 1NT on a 13 count with 6C, which made a 2H overcall less palatable. They played in 4S 1 off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Sure I overcall.Wait a little with the table result so we have time to answer :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Not sure if Ron wanted to change the problem slightly or not, but on the actual deal partner was a passed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 what impact said made a lot of sense to me. 1♥ overcall is likelly getting a very wrong lead form partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 1♥ all day. Passing is so ineffective, I would rather control my own destiny on a hand with so much potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Probably no overcall from me. But would try a 2♣ michaels on a good day :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Probably no overcall from me. But would try a 2♣ michaels on a good day :) I'm not sure "good" is the right word to describe that kind of day. It would definitely require some adjective though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Probably no overcall from me. But would try a 2♣ michaels on a good day smile.gif A good way to turn a good day into a bad day if you ask me. BTW I would pass unless under death threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 1♥ for me. Most of my partners recognise that my 1 level bids are lead deflective :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 1♥. I used to bid 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Probably no overcall from me. But would try a 2♣ michaels on a good day :) I'm not sure "good" is the right word to describe that kind of day. It would definitely require some adjective though!lol :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 1NT for takeout :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I pass but its fairly close. Some arguments for passing: Do I want a heart lead against a suit? No. Do I want a heart lead against NT? Possibly, but if pard chooses a spade or a diamond, I'll be glad I didn't overcall. If I compete, will it be productive? Hard to tell, but its hard to believe that we don't have something if pard can't come in. To the overcallers, would you still come in without the pointed Jacks? The heart 10? I'm wondering where you would draw the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'm not sure "good" is the right word to describe that kind of day. It would definitely require some adjective though! It's a metaphore. Didn't they teach you that at school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'm not sure "good" is the right word to describe that kind of day. It would definitely require some adjective though! It's a metaphore. Didn't they teach you that at school? No but they did teach me what a metaphor is. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Speaking of which, this happened in Round 1 of the Qualifying session. Would you have found the 1♠ overcall here? Bocchi did. [hv=d=n&v=n&n=st98532hkjd952cq5&w=saqjht985d873ck94&e=sk64ha63dakjcat73&s=s7hq742dqt64cj862]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] I was sitting West with North as dealer, and the auction was as follows:Pass - 1♣ - Pass - 1♦* * (4+♥)1♠ - X** - Pass - 1NT **Takeout/ValuesPass - 3NT - All Pass I almost passed the X given if partner had a takeout double (1345 ideally) South might've thought about raising but since he didn't, partner rated to have 18-19 bal.But of course, I thought I'd play safe and was just a bit surprised at the (very) light overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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