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Which is standard? (CORRECTED)


1D-(1S)-P-(P);2C-(P)-2S means ...  

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  1. 1. 1D-(1S)-P-(P);2C-(P)-2S means ...

    • I have Spades, and lots of them
      13
    • I have a sound raise to 3C and was fixed first time around
      9
    • Other
      4


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You should probably have spades but not always lots of them. You're just forcing partner to continue describing his/her hand and if you happen to mention spades again then it'd be a hand with many spades. If you raise clubs or diamonds then you have support and were asking about a spade stopper. That's the way I'd take it, I haven't have or discussed this sequence.
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I think it suggests playing in spades, but I'm not sure how strong it is. The only time I can remember seeing this sequence, responder intended it as forcing, but opener passed.

Having had exactly the same auction once (at a junior squad training weekend, so sadly quite a few years ago) it was subsequently agreed by all present to be natural and forcing.

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Do you think that it would be easy to distil into a few rules - a tree diagram if you prefer - for the benefit of a beginner the occasions when a cue bid of the opponent's suit is

1) Natural

2) A sound raise of partner

3) A probe for NT

4) A control-showing bid

5) Something else (Michaels etc)

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I have always thought of this as being natural and non-forcing, but I don't remember it happening at the table.

 

at a junior squad training weekend, so sadly quite a few years ago

I know that February very rarely has as many as 31 days, but should we anyway be congratulating you on turning the big 40? :P

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The following sequence came up in a bidding poll of Dutch bridge magazine "Bridge":

 

1-1-p-p

x--p--p-2

p--p--2

 

Everyone agreed this was natural and NF, buf this is probably different since the 2 bidder here is in a force (not sure I would agree with that, but that was what they said, apparently a revealed trap pass forces to 2NT or some such).

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When I had auctions like this with David_C, we agreed that it was forcing, and given that responder didn't bid something over 1S, agreed that it must show a penalty pass of 1S.

 

So spades but a good hand with spades, not just KJ10xxx and out.

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