rogerclee Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 IMPs, All White, First Seat ♠ATxx ♥xx ♦KQ9x ♣A98 1♦ - (1♥) - 3♣ - (3♥)? 1♦ was precision (2+♦), 3♣ was a fitted jump (not a game try). If it matters to you, you play 14-16 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 4H - pick a game for me. (Or 4S/4NT - whatever your agreement with pd is, but I am certainly bidding a game). First round S control, Ace of C, decent Ds and 2 H losers - seems like the obvious bid. However it depends on what your agreements on fsj are I guess.I would expect something like Axx (x) of Ds and KQ to 5C at a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 IMPs, All White, First Seat ♠ATxx ♥xx ♦KQ9x ♣A98 1♦ - (1♥) - 3♣ - (3♥)? 1♦ was precision (2+♦), 3♣ was a fitted jump. If it matters to you, you play 14-16 NT. What does a 3c fitted jump show in terms of trumps, clubs and range? If we are in slam range I would try 3s for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I think the explanation was something like "less than invitational strength". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I think the explanation was something like "less than invitational strength". I must admit that I don't see the point of playing fsj as "less" than invitational. If this is the case you appear to be playing them only to encourage a scrifice. I have always played them as invit+ cf my post above to see a minimum hand type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Game feels like a longshot. But it depends on what partner deems adequate trumps over a precision 1D. I'd say that 10 cards in the minors is in the realm of possibility. I'd bid 3S, which can hardly be misconstrued I think. Maybe partner can even bid 3NT, which I think I'd respect. It will also help him to maybe not take a phantom sac if we should be worried about that. Playing within a precision context is nice. I'm confident we have 4-level safety and there's no reason partner can't reevaluate his non-invite once he knows we don't have a run-of-the-mill crappy 1D opener. Also partner isn't going to go overboard and bid a bad game because our maximums are still limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'd bid 3S, which can hardly be misconstrued I think. snipped 6D+5S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 If "fitted" means 4+♦ then I would bid 4♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 If aprtne is below invitation we are not likelly making a 5 level game. We have fair chances at the 4 level. the problem is: we don't have a clue if 4♥ makes or not. But I'd go with 4♦ (if 3♣ shows at least 4, like apollo said) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'd bid 4D, partner is allowed to bid on with extra distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfedrick Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 4♦. sure to be right opposite 5-5 or 5-4 minors. could easily be trading +50 for -50 opposite balancedish 4-5, but that's life. opposite "< game-try", i'm not remotely close to game with xx in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I would pass and hope for a plus score against 3♥. 4♦ is an aggressive alternative. I'm not expecting partner to have a perfecto for his 3♣ all the time. Surely if game is on, partner has enough to have planed to bid again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 If my 1♦ opening was natural, I would go with 4♣ here, so that partner can evaluate the sacrifice. Given I have only shown 2+♦ I find it a bit tougher. I won't bid 4♣ now as we could easily be 4-5 in the minors. I will bid 4♦ now as the others, but I think it will be tough for either of us to make a decision over 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 4♦ seems very normal to me. Perhaps a bit passive but that's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 4D for me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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