vuroth Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 MPs, vuln unknown ♠ KT872♥ A♦ AQJ765♣ 2 1♣ 1♥ 1NT ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 2NT, I'll go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Tricky, 2♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Something is fishy. Give opener 12 and responder 7 (minimums for their actions) together with my 14 makes 33 HCP, leaving only 7 points for partner. That's a pretty weak overcall, especially considering we have the Ace of his suit and responder has shown a stopper. Would he overcall 1♥ will something like ♠xxx ♥KJxxx ♦xx ♣Kxx? Maybe ♠xx ♥QJTxx ♦xx ♣Axxx? I guess it's possible everyone has their bids...barely. I'll bid 2♦ and then take another call (2♠) if partner corrects to 2♥. I'll probably compete to 3♦ if the opponents compete to 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Should not dbl show the unbid suits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Should not dbl show the unbid suits? I would expect double to express doubt that the opponents can make 1N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Should not dbl show the unbid suits? That's how I have played it for years, and I am confident it is expert standard as well. Penalty is fairly useless since if you have a penalty double your partner probably has diddly for his overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Should not dbl show the unbid suits? That's how I have played it for years, and I am confident it is expert standard as well. Penalty is fairly useless since if you have a penalty double your partner probably has diddly for his overcall. I prefer this treatment as well, but have not discussed it with any of my regular partners. So absent an agreement, I would stick with 2♦. However, I will make a note to discuss it with my regular partners. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I would have started with double, whatever it means. I would have assumed penalty, good hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 2♠ + some nr. of diamonds. Seems simple.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Without an agreement as to what double means, I start with 2♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Thanks guys. I bid 2♦ at the table, being unsure what double would mean. Partner was, as some speculated, on the light end of the overcall range, but we still made 4. I wondered what double would mean, and I also wondered if I should make a forcing bid (I guessed that 2D would be NF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 X. I will start with a bid, that is showing, that I have the strongest hand on the table.X is not for the unbid suit, it is just penalty. If they run to clubs, I will bid diamonds later. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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