cnszsun Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=shakxxxdaxcajxxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♣-ps-1♠-ps2♥-ps-3NT-ps??3nt undiscussed[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 4♥ wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 4♥, completing the description of our hand: 5+♣ with 5♥, and since with equal length you would open 1♥ with 5-5, you must be at least 6-5. This is the perfect description, because partner knows your strength and shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I saw that you mentioned "3nt undiscussed". Does this mean that other responses to opener's reverse were "discussed" and if yes, what are they? This information might/might not help identify what 3NT bidder has, but not sure it affects my choice, 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 It seems obvious to me to rebid 4♥ to show the 5-6 distribution. It would be nice to know the meaning of 2NT in this sequence, since that might shred some light towards the meaning of 3NT. But I think it's clear to bid 4♥ anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I think responder is showing a good balanced hand, 13-14 or so HCPs, exactly 4 spades and 2 or 3 hearts. I'll bid 4H. If responder bids 4N, I'll take that as RKC for hearts. If responder bids 5C, I'll raise to 6C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 4♥. I expect 3NT to be the best contract a significant percentage of the time, but passing puts a few too many eggs in a basket that's a bit too small. After 4♥ we should be able to put the right eggs in the right baskets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I thought the choice was between 4♥ and 5♥. Pass wouldn't occur to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 5♥ is forcing to slam since there is no guarantee of a heart fit. Pass really is silly with this sort of hand. Sure it can work but there is no chance of bidding a slam and 3NT could be hopeless. 4♥ seems very middle of the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 5♥ is forcing to slam since there is no guarantee of a heart fit. Please explain. If your argument is that 5♥ must be a 6-5 slam force because we have no other bid for it, then I would say this is not a very well-thought argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 4♥ as we could have a slam, especially in ♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 5♥ is forcing to slam since there is no guarantee of a heart fit. Please explain. If your argument is that 5♥ must be a 6-5 slam force because we have no other bid for it, then I would say this is not a very well-thought argument. He says that partner is correcting to clubs at the 6 level, if you are willing to force to slam on imssfits, you should be forcing to slam when there is a fit in hearts as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 4♥ I don;t like partners making undiscussed jumps in constructive auctions, because it leaves both of us guessing: I am guessing what he meant and he is guessing what I guessed it meant. But this is a huge hand that has to be bid out, and he can do what he wants. If he rebids 4N, he is playing it there.... I have a meta-agreement in all my partnerships that a call of 4N by a player who offered to play in 3N is natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Btw I didn't mean to start a serious debate about 5♥, which this hand is clearly not good enough for (by any definition). I was merely trying to show that I didn't even realize passing 3NT was a serious option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snillrik13 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 2 NT would be forcing "Lebensohl" for me. Thus 3 NT is a very very strong wish to play. If 6 or 7 clubs is on we will have a serious discussion! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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