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Those pesky preempts, part 42,176


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This is another annoying one:

 

For a change, the Moysian doesn't appeal to be. Too many ways this can go wrong, especially with the Spade tap in the wrong hand.

 

I'm torn between 4 and Pass

 

Pass is very unilateral. Given the dubious nature of third seat white versus red preempts, pass could work out brilliantly. However, it strikes me as too much of a gamble.

 

Guess that I'll bid a pedestrian 4

 

I consider this a 6 or so (Please note: Vuroth and I both mark this a six, but our alternatives are completely different calls)

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I would rate 3 NT a 7.

Second choice is pass.

 

(I mixed it up before I edited, but V, 3 NT must often be better then pass)

 

I dislike 4 Diamond- does this hand looks like 5 in a minor?

And I hate 3 Spade.

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The partner with the shortness needs to be aggressive. Clearly the doubler is short so may well be minimum or a bit subminimum. I love pass. They aren't making, and +300 is fine when we have no game--which will be a substantial fraction of the time. Also on many of the hands where we do have a making game, there will be a chance for +800.

 

I give pass a strong 8 at these colors--at any other colors, I would give it a least a 12 on a scale of 10.

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I am a passer here thinking it has the best risk vs reward with my flat hand and that 3x very rarely makes while we could easily be set in 3NT or some other contract. If we are making 3NT (my 2nd choice) we should soundly beat 3x.
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The companion hand was

 

KT875

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A852

QT83

 

So, neither pass nor 3N would  have been much of a success.

 

What do you think of the takeout double with this hand?

Opposite a passed hand especially? No way. Partner passed and they made, what a shock. Partner bid 3NT and went down, what a shock. I won't double when partner's two most likely actions will usually work terribly.

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The companion hand was

 

KT875

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A852

QT83

 

So, neither pass nor 3N would have been much of a success.

 

What do you think of the takeout double with this hand?

I have some sympathy for the double if partner wasn't a passed hand, but none in the actual case.

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