sailoranch Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=skjt76ht9765d5cq9]133|100|Scoring: MP---- 2♦ - P - PX - P - P - ?[/hv] Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 At a guess, no. This should be your last chance for a normal result, even if normal is painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 No, the guy on my left holds both majors.This is not going to get any better I'm afraid. Pass and hope the opps can make a slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 rdbl probably shows 5-5 two unbid suits, not sure if it is the percentage action to use it with a singleton diamond. I think I would pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Do you have a tool to show 5/5 in the majors that does not commit you to the three level? Yes? Use it. No? Be Dummy and be happy. Thinks may improve next board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Clear redouble. Partner can easily have a three card major, and even if it's a doubleton it won't be any worse than this. We are currently in a terrible contract and may well find a better one without increasing the level, so we should at least try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 You have to pull! Your hand is nothing useful for pard, and you can easily construct hands where you are making 2M when 2D is a bloodbath. Agree with xx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 XX should ask partner at all costs to bid a 3cM or even a 2cM... The only problem I see is when partner is 1=2=6=4, how disgusting to play 3♣... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 XX should ask partner at all costs to bid a 3cM or even a 2cM... The only problem I see is when partner is 1=2=6=4, how disgusting to play 3♣... Partner's reasoning would indeed be quite disgusting if partner bid 3♣ instead of 2♥ with that shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 XX should ask partner at all costs to bid a 3cM or even a 2cM... The only problem I see is when partner is 1=2=6=4, how disgusting to play 3♣... Partner's reasoning would indeed be quite disgusting if partner bid 3♣ instead of 2♥ with that shape. I don't follow. Would you not redouble with 4405? Do you still want him to bid a doubleton major rather than a 4-card club suit? Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 XX should ask partner at all costs to bid a 3cM or even a 2cM... The only problem I see is when partner is 1=2=6=4, how disgusting to play 3♣... Partner's reasoning would indeed be quite disgusting if partner bid 3♣ instead of 2♥ with that shape. I don't follow. Would you not redouble with 4405? Do you still want him to bid a doubleton major rather than a 4-card club suit? Roland No I wouldn't redouble with that shape. It's not only about being short in partner's suit, you also have to think that there is likely another reasonable place, and that you can find it. It's like if you play a 4NT overcall of a 4♠ opening bid is 2 or 3 suited takeout (lots of people used to, although not very many any more). If partner is something like 5512 there then he has to bid 5♣ in case we have the minors. And if your response to that is what if we are 0544, I can only say it shows why such a method doesn't work (in other words why you shouldn't redouble with 4405 shape). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 XX should ask partner at all costs to bid a 3cM or even a 2cM... The only problem I see is when partner is 1=2=6=4, how disgusting to play 3♣... Partner's reasoning would indeed be quite disgusting if partner bid 3♣ instead of 2♥ with that shape. This is the B/I forum. I think the Rdbl with 5-5 in two suits is the perfect bid in isolation, but might not occur to less experienced player. Similarly, bidding a two card major might not occur to a B/I if there is no agreement what Rdbl is and in that context bidding a 4-card suit is understandable (I would not do it but...) though it may be disgusting to an expert If I am playing with a B/I, I will Pass because the *weak two* agreement probably is more along traditional "great suit" type and the damage not wholly unbearable. Risking a misunderstanding from an UNDISCUSSED RDbl could be more costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 XX should ask partner at all costs to bid a 3cM or even a 2cM... The only problem I see is when partner is 1=2=6=4, how disgusting to play 3♣... Partner's reasoning would indeed be quite disgusting if partner bid 3♣ instead of 2♥ with that shape. This is the B/I forum. I think the Rdbl with 5-5 in two suits is the perfect bid in isolation, but might not occur to less experienced player. Similarly, bidding a two card major might not occur to a B/I if there is no agreement what Rdbl is and in that context bidding a 4-card suit is understandable (I would not do it but...) though it may be disgusting to an expert If I am playing with a B/I, I will Pass because the *weak two* agreement probably is more along traditional "great suit" type and the damage not wholly unbearable. Risking a misunderstanding from an UNDISCUSSED RDbl could be more costly. I had this with a B/I partner a few years ago in this exact auction and he passed with xx KJx Qxxxxx xx, my RHO has 6 diamonds to the AKJT... -2800 does not look good at IMPs :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Risking a misunderstanding from an UNDISCUSSED RDbl could be more costly. It goes without saying not to risk a misunderstanding if you are worried about it, especially when the action is a redouble. It's still worthwhile to say what someone 'should' do though. Redoubling for rescue is a very widespread and worthwhile concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Redouble. We know they have us here. I don't like sitting in what I know will be a bad spot when I have two possible escape routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Redouble. We know they have us here. I don't like sitting in what I know will be a bad spot when I have two possible escape routes. Agreed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 So what exactly does redouble mean in general? Two other places to play? Unbid major(s)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 So what exactly does redouble mean in general? Two other places to play? Unbid major(s)? Two other places to play when running from a weak two bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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