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Can I go back and bid 2 at my 2nd turn?  Why did I hide 4 card support?

Red on White? OK... You can bid 2, and the auction will be the same from there on...

I might double at MP's then. I think it's a bit too spec for IMPs, given we likely have 0-1 diamond tricks coming our way. I'd say 1 is more likely than 0. Also, if the AQ of spades is over us, we may only take 2 tricks. I think I would just let it go at IMPs. If partner had overcalled 2 I would crack.

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I would double, based on their auction both showing minimums. If they are like GIB and might be making a slam here then I hope I know my customers.

 

Of course I would also have raised diamonds earlier, probably to 3 (the spades were not yet an offensive liability at that point) but if someone prefers 2 that's ok.

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I would double, based on their auction both showing minimums. If they are like GIB and might be making a slam here then I hope I know my customers.

 

Of course I would also have raised diamonds earlier, probably to 3 (the spades were not yet an offensive liability at that point) but if someone prefers 2 that's ok.

agreed.. both opps, if to be trusted, think that this game is at best fair, and that will be based on the expectation of a 3-2 trump break. If they never make a doubled game against you, you (probably) don't double enough. BTW, I'm not worried about them having a stiff diamond somewhere... that might actually help my trumps grow up in some situations. I wouldn't double without some expectation of a 2 trick set, since my double will sometimes cost a trick in play (the last time an opp doubled my 4 contract, on a 4-4 fit, she held KJ10xx and we made an overtrick... but her partner had not made a strength showing call)

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My main concern with doubling was giving away the location of all the trumps, therefore reducing the # or trump tricks I get, and this may allow them to make it, so we lose 11 instead of lose 5 or 6 (or 2)... I thought that at MPs maybe X would be more favored, because every 10 points is crucial, or is it still the same theory about giving away the location of all the trumps, therefore making the X a wash or loss usually?
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<snip> (the last time an opp doubled my 4 contract, on a 4-4 fit, she held KJ10xx and we made an overtrick... but her partner had not made a strength showing call)

I wouldn't exactly consider a 1 overcall a "strength showing call", although I wouldn't consider it a "strength denying call" either.

red v white at imps, light 1 overcalls are not a good idea. You take away zero bidding space.. in fact you create bidding space for the opps, who now have a double to show both majors, and a cue bid. At the same time, you give away info and you expose yourself to a red v white number, even at the 1-level, let alone if partner takes you seriously.

 

I believe, perhaps erroneously, that most good players would have a higher minimum for this overcall than for any other 1 level overcall sequence.

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I believe, perhaps erroneously, that most good players would have a higher minimum for this overcall than for any other 1 level overcall sequence.

Who said partner was a good player? This is B/I :D

 

However, I agree that partner should have a good hand for a 1 overcall here.

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I believe, perhaps erroneously, that most good players would have a higher minimum for this overcall than for any other 1 level overcall sequence.

Who said partner was a good player? This is B/I :D

 

However, I agree that partner should have a good hand for a 1 overcall here.

I don't. To me that is old fashioned thinking. You need to get partner off to good leads, give him a chance to raise and take up space, give him a basis to introduce new suits, take away some of their gadgets such as new minor forcing if partner can make a single raise, etc.

 

Of course it's moot on this hand. The opponents' auction tells you partner is not on a 6 or 7 count, at least to the extent they can be trusted.

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Yeah, I don't need a good hand to overcall 1D. Understand that it creates cuebids/space for opps, but the upsides are for lead directional and that partner may be able to create LESS bidding space by preempting.

As to the actual hand, I think I'll pass. I agree that the auction just screams for a double, but diamonds are typically 5431 around and if declarer needs any heart finesses they are onside.

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I am really surprised that so great players double at imps.

 

I would expect to make about 1/2 trick less by doubling, so I do not see the big gain. They are NV and I do not see them going 2 or more down.

 

At mps, I might doubl them.

 

For the idea that 1 could be weak: Good opponents will be thankful for this noise. Against weaker pairs it may help.

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