Fluffy Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 ♠6♥A1084♦A76432♣A5 1♦-1♥?? IMPS nobody vulnerable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerardo Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Good shape, bad spots. 2♥ for me. If partner can't make a move over that, game is unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 2♥ but don't mind 3♥ here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 3H. 3 bullets and 6-4 makes this a pretty good hand for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 3♥ for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 3♥ for me too. Yeah..32 ZARs ..yeah OK..I can certainly be convinced. I was on the fence between 2 and 3 anyhow and 3 is only an invite and one can constuct hands that pass 2♥ with game making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDean Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 3♥ for me, would bid 4 before I bid 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevek Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 2♥ In answering these I always assume a weak notrump framework so 2♥ shows a good hand, say 14-17 TP. Under these conditions, 3♥+ are overbids.2♥ is great if partner can make a shape enquiry via 2NT, onother weak nt bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Are we assuming that we are playing a weak NT? If we are, then 2♥ describes this hand perfectly. If we are not, then this is sort of a problem hand, but when I rebid 3♥ in these auctions, my partner plays me for a distrubutional hand... Which is exactly what I have. The 3 aces, and 6-4 makes this a 3♥ bid imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewj Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 3♥ for me too. 2♥ could be a 4333 12 count or this and I probably want to get to game opposite a flat 10 count.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 2♥ my partners would answer with less than 6 hcp to a 1m opening and he did not promise more than 4♥ yet. If he has invitational strength, he will make a move over 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Partner does not need invitational strength to make game.Even xxxx,Kxxx,Kxx,xx can be enough.So I invite him to the show. Given the possible methods, I try 3 ♥, but would prefer a better try like 2 Spade playing SSGT or 3 Diamond with LSGT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 3♥, I don't think this is close at all. Calling this a 12 point hand is basically a failure to play bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 2♥ my partners would answer with less than 6 hcp to a 1m opening and he did not promise more than 4♥ yet. If he has invitational strength, he will make a move over 2♥. You occasionally get into 3-3 fits?I've once defended against a 3-3 fit on this type of 1m-1M-2M auctions. The opponents even had on their card that they would often respond with a 3cM.-300 wasn't a good result for them :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 3♥ for me also. I am a little confused by the silence around the table, though, as to spades. Perhaps the reason is that partner just has a lot of points, such that my decision is immaterial. Although, this does bring up a thought. My decision as to whether to bid 2♥ or 3♥ is not simply one of hand evaluation. If partner would bid again over 2♥ anyway, then my decision is only relevant to whether I have provided sufficient guidance as to slam sequences. For, if he bids over 2♥, we are going to game. Thus, the only question in that event is whether my bid caters to slam sequences well. If partner would pass 3♥, then obviously 2♥ might be beter, except for the competition issue. However, the competition issue is strong. If we would be well-placed after a 2♥ call to handle a competitive sequence and to make game tries after a signoff, then an immediate 3♥ loses some urgency. Looking at all of this, though, I think 3♥ now meets all needs. When partner is actually slammish, 3♥ is a fair bid. I have slightly overstated slam playing strength but that is OK because I have three Aces and four suits controlled. When the auction is competitive only, I have jammed the opponents, with a backup plan of good defense if they actually step out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomi2 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 since my partners usualy pass with nothing on 1D and I have told most of them not to raise my 4H bids in that situation I would bid 4H.4D would be more constructive, same to 3S, on some days 3d would come into my mind. on 1st of april I would bid 2h and then think of some joke to tell my teammates that we scored 170 or 200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I am shocked to see MULTIPLE votes for 2♥. When I read the problem I thought the decision would be between 3, 4, and splinter. I think I would just bid 3♥, but that still feels like an underbid to me. IMO a 2♥ bid has zero merit here and is just wrong hand evaluation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 2♥ for me.(With my regular partner I play 1♠ is forcing and 2♠ is splinter with 12-14 or 18-19. Then 2♠ of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Even xxxx,Kxxx,Kxx,xx can be enough. ♥Kxxxx can be enough actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 This hand just has too much potential for 2♥. Write me down for 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevek Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I am shocked to see MULTIPLE votes for 2♥. When I read the problem I thought the decision would be between 3, 4, and splinter. I think I would just bid 3♥, but that still feels like an underbid to me. IMO a 2♥ bid has zero merit here and is just wrong hand evaluation.Well I bid 2♥ but not because "I have scarced 12 HCP" so I didn't click. 2♥ is clear in Acol since you deny 12-14 balanced. In that regime, 3♥ tends to be 18-19 balanced-ish so partner will never unravel this hand.If you enforce a strong notrump regime (Isn't there a forum for that?) I guess 3♥ is acceptable, though prefer a shapely overbid of 3♠ & 4♥. Really it's a problem created by system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Partner held: KJ9xxKQJxxx-Qx After I bid 4♥ she drove us to slam. Hidding the spades lured the opponent to raise from ♠A10xx when dummy's singleton was led at trick 2 and the rest was easy (not sure if it was neccesary to make). About the 2♥ bidders, I am impressed by the amount of them also. Different systems make different bids, but I believe if you might have only 3 hearts and 12-14 balanced you really cannot bid 2♥ with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 hmm, deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 By the way, I am a big fan of the cheapest bid being an artificial ask after 1m-1M; 3M. That seems to help on this hand. Please expound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 By the way, I am a big fan of the cheapest bid being an artificial ask after 1m-1M; 3M. That seems to help on this hand. Please expound Asking for shortness I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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