Does 2NT deny 4 hearts?

[helene_t]

I've only heard the name "snapdragon" used for a double of a freebid, showing five cards in the unbid suit and two in partner's suit.

[jdonn]

I've only heard the name "snapdragon" used for a double of a freebid, showing five cards in the unbid suit and two in partner's suit.

It shows 0526. :D

[P_Marlowe]

2NT says, I am not really interested to know,

if partner has a 4 card heart suit.

If p has a 4 card heart suit, he can introduce

the suit, if he has a reason, say he has a 5413

shape.

 

But if he introduces hearts, he implicitly suggest to

play a 4-3 fit as well.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[benlessard]

I dont think take-out X here is pertinent. The X should show 4 in the M if a fit is possible or It should be a support for D.

 

 

1C----(P)------1D--------(1H)

??

X = support X of Diamonds since with 4S you can bid 1S (bal or unbalanced)

 

 

1C----(P)------1D------(1S)

X = not walsh 4H, walsh it should show 3D

[fachiru]

[hv=d=w&w=sakhkxxdakxcqxxxx&e=s10hqj10xdjxxxxcajx]266|100|Scoring: MP

1♣ - p - 1♦ - 1♠

2NT

[/hv]

South bids 1♠ and now West has rebid 2NT.

Although these hands cannot give a problem - you'll end in 3NT anyway - they generated some discussion.

The question is, should east look for a fit in hearts by bidding 3♣ or can he finish the bidding right away with 3NT.

 

When the opposition is silent the 2NT rebid can be done on a hand with four spades and/or hearts.

But does this 2NT rebid deny four hearts since west could have doubled to show them?

Given the stiff ♠ and a potential ♥ fit (2nt does not deny that suit), I'd rate:

3♥=10

3nt=2

 

3nt is really lazy given the natural ♥alternative.