gwnn Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 xxxJxKTxQT9xx AQJxATxxxxxAx NS is vulnerable @ imps, E deals+opens 1♦ 1♦-x-2♥(weak)-3♣p-3♦-p-3♠p-4♠-end -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I blame E-W for not doubling :unsure: But to give you a constructive answer. I don't like N's bidding at all on this hand. I would just pass N's hand after the opp WJS noting my K of ♦ maybe missplaced and that S's double could be a bit shy in ♣ and that S can X again if he wants. I take S's 3♦ bid as asking N to bid 3NT with that suit stopped (again noting that his initial X would tend to imply he's not concerned with the opps running ♥ and that he could always have Q'd 3♥ anyhow). Thus N should bid 3NT. S was optimistic in rasing to 4♠, but it is IMPs and he has prime cards and really should think that N has something more than a ratty 6 HCP for his 3♣ call. Blame 90% N, 10% S in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Definitely dislike 3C, and I think south should pass it even though the right hands make game ie Txx xx Axx KQxxx. I have the agreements with my partners that if the opps have bid 2 suits and youre trying to get to 3N you cuebid the stopper you have. However, I also have the agreement that if you double and your next bid is a suit that RHO didn't open it's natural regardless of what they have bid. This includes a weak jump since they might psyche it. I understand that north was probably thinking the first part and south was probably thinking the second part so they got confused after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I don't like either North or South's bidding. Hard to offer a constuctive critique to styles with which I disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hard to offer a constuctive critique to styles with which I disagree. Who asked for 'constructive criticism'? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 South's takeout double - flawed but understandable. With only 2 clubs, you expect partner to bid clubs, and that is a problem. The book bid is pass, but I would bet that very few would pass the South hand. Overcalling 1♠ is another flawed option. 3♣ - aggressive. Again, the book bid is pass, but I am sure many would bid their reasonable 5 card suit expecting a fit opposite partner's takeout double. 3♦ - this is where I get off. South must pass 3♣. North could have a better hand, but if 3NT were a good contact, North might have called notrump rather than clubs. 3♠ - I have no clue where this bid came from. 3NT is the obvious call over 3♦. 4♠ - The auction has gained a momentum all its own after the 3♦ call. I think South is primarily to blame here. South could have prevented the fiasco by passing 3♣. Once South bid 3♦, everything was on his shoulders. 3♣ by North was aggressive, but not ridiculous. 70% to South, 30% to North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I have the agreements with my partners that if the opps have bid 2 suits and youre trying to get to 3N you cuebid the stopper you have. I like that agreement and have played it before and should make sure that all my semi regular pards think the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 They both overbid, 3♣ by north and anything over 3♣ by south. I don't blame south at all for the double though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Dbl by South with both majors although a flaw in a minor is acceptable, IMO. 3!C was an overbid which S should Pass. 3!D was an overbid, whatever its intended meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Agree with ArtK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 -DBL - I like it-3♣ - Dislike it, no shape, minimum values, bad ♦ points-3♦ -Dislike it, it seems that the hand has no direction, but understandable-3♠ - Consequence of the previous bad bid, closed now-4♠ - Found 4 gold pieces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I agree with Gonzalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Definitely dislike 3C, and I think south should pass it even though the right hands make game ie Txx xx Axx KQxxx. You are a lot more optimistic than me. What I mean is: When thinking of possible hands for partner to make game, I would label this hand as a hand where I wouldn't wanna be in game. Analysing it fully, game is a favourite, but I would not think that deep. So out of curiosity, what proccess of thinking (how many steps) led you to label this hand as worth a game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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