mtvesuvius Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I will give both hands, and everybody can ATB later... For right now: 2♣* - 3♣**3♥ - 3♠*** *21+ HCP; Artificial**Positive Hand, 5+♣***What is it? More to come soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Natural, 4-5 or 4-6 or something. If natural is a possibility, I think natural is the right answer. B) If partner really had a minimum positive where getting to 3NT was the goal, he could've saved a whole level of bidding by responding 2♦. I think the 3♣ call needs to be shapely and/or slammish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I'd play like if that's natural, but don't discard that it is a cue for hearts. would 4♥ be forcing? probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I assign the blame to responder. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMor Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Agree with 'awm', it's natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 yep natural, you can bid 3N without stoppers as responder in this auction (since you should have so much in the way of values that it won't be an issue that often). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 3♠ is natural for me also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snillrik13 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Natural. Spades can be three only, but good ones. We do not want to bypass 3 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 4-card spades, IMO. I am guessing that very few people have an _agreement_ what 3S is in this auction and I don't see the logic of it being anything but natural and denying 3-card hearts. If it wasn't natural and there was no prior discussion of the meaning of this 3S call, then I will just wish "good luck with the experiment".PS. I like to restrict the space-consuming 3C response to be six cards with two of the top three or five only if AKQxx or AQJ10x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Natural, 4+ cards (OK, unlikely to be 5...).There's no rule that says we can't have a spade fit here. I like to play a positive response in a minor as F4NT (making 2C - 3C - 3H - 4H forcing), although that probably mitigates JLOL's comment elsewhere about Helgemo's comment that light positives can be very successful. In practice, partner makes a positive and then supports your primary suit. When are you going to pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Okay, Have at it now: [hv=n=sxxhakqxxxxdacaxx&s=sxxhjdqxxxxckqjtx]133|200|ATB now ;)[/hv] 2♣* - 3♣**3♥ - 3♠***4NT' - 5♦''6♥ - P *21+ HCP; Artificial**Positive Hand, 5+♣***What is it?'1430 FOR ♠''3 or 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 It's a very good contract on this auction probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I assign the blame to responder. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I assign the blame to responder. :P Me too....although I'd have opened 1♥ on this hand with only 17 HCP as it is so rarely passed out when we have game. 3♠ seems like a new partner asking bid. Just my opinion .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 It's a very good contract on this auction probably. Sadly, the person on lead has Txxx in ♠ and found a spade lead... (As we deserved) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 This is not remotelly close to a 2♣ opening IMO, but still south has a big rebid problem when north has a real hand. I try to avoid bidding clubs when I have 5 of another suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxw0016 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 3♠ looks natural, or at least its bidder has a plan of how to handle the auction afterward. By responding 3♣ over a strong 2♣ opening, you have to be prepared to look for a fit starting at the 3 level. If your hand can not afford to do so, it might be better to use an artificial 2 level response depending on your system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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