rogerclee Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 IMPs, Red vs White, Third Seat ♠K9x ♥void ♦AKJT9xx ♣Qxx 1♠ - (P) - 2♦ - (2NT)P - (5♥) - ? You play 2/1 GF. If you pass, partner will double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Pass and then 5♠ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 pass and 5♠. We need 4 keycards form partner I think (we might need that he has ♦Q if we get shortened on trick 1), so a minimum opennig that fits (or non fitting extras) its what you need for bidding slam after an invitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 D LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 D LOLI protest your behaviour. Not nice. As topic starter you are expected to be kind. Just check :http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...=0entry319235 Given example I did not judge your comments. Tried to show without any sarcastic comment & gloating. I would really like not to see your comments on my next posts. Likewise I ll follow same route and never join your posts from now on. Good luck in your bridge career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 D LOLI protest your behaviour. Not nice. As topic starter you are expected to be kind. Just check :http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...=0entry319235 Given example I did not judge your comments. Tried to show without any sarcastic comment & gloating. I would really like not to see your comments on my next posts. Likewise I ll follow same route and never join your posts from now on. Good luck in your bridge career. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 D LOLI protest your behaviour. Not nice. As topic starter you are expected to be kind. Just check :http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...=0entry319235 Given example I did not judge your comments. Tried to show without any sarcastic comment & gloating. I would really like not to see your comments on my next posts. Likewise I ll follow same route and never join your posts from now on. Good luck in your bridge career. Then dont contribute to his posts with insightful comments like "D" and certainly don't complain about it when he calls you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 OMG I am just laughing hysterically after reading the link posted, toooo good. Anyways pass and 5S is way too much imo, we have a 13 count with bad trumps and no club control. I would just bid 5S now and didn't really consider it a close call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 5♠. I have no idea if it's a close call or not, I don't believe I have ever held a 3073 hand of this strength on this auction. I do believe however that bidding at all shows plenty of offense, so I am not particularly worried that I am failing to show my hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote. We are playing 2/1. Pard's pass is forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote. We are playing 2/1. Pard's pass is forcing.Hi Phil, and others. I am not accustomed to playing 2/1. Apart from being forcing, what does partners pass show? Is it limited? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote. We are playing 2/1. Pard's pass is forcing.Hi Phil, and others. I am not accustomed to playing 2/1. Apart from being forcing, what does partners pass show? Is it limited? It shows (for me anyway), the inability to make another call. It usually denotes a balanced hand without a penalty of their suits, or great support for me, or a rebiddable spade suit. It tends to respect a penalty double from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlam Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote. We are playing 2/1. Pard's pass is forcing.Hi Phil, and others. I am not accustomed to playing 2/1. Apart from being forcing, what does partners pass show? Is it limited? It shows (for me anyway), the inability to make another call. It usually denotes a balanced hand without a penalty of their suits, or great support for me, or a rebiddable spade suit. It tends to respect a penalty double from me. So it typically is a weak NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 You might be cold for 15 tricks opposite a weak NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote. We are playing 2/1. Pard's pass is forcing.Hi Phil, and others. I am not accustomed to playing 2/1. Apart from being forcing, what does partners pass show? Is it limited? It shows (for me anyway), the inability to make another call. It usually denotes a balanced hand without a penalty of their suits, or great support for me, or a rebiddable spade suit. It tends to respect a penalty double from me.That description could fit any strength. Does pass limit the strength of the hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I would pass and pull to show my SI.We can make slam opposite AQxxx in spades and out opposite a heart lead and a good view in diamonds. So 5 Spades is not enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinizong Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 5♠ or Dbl would deny slaminterest, hence both are not my choice. My hand is certainly slaminterested, even a Grand is possible here.A fast 6♠ might well elicit a 7♥ insurance call which i could pass to show void and grand interest. My bid is 6♠!To pass and then pull a Dbl to 5♠ or 6♦ would tend to show a singleton ♥ and more hi card values IMHO Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 5♠. I have no idea if it's a close call or not, I don't believe I have ever held a 3073 hand of this strength on this auction. I do believe however that bidding at all shows plenty of offense, so I am not particularly worried that I am failing to show my hand. Doesn't a forcing pass, then pulling partner's double show more offense? 5♠ immeadiately is not a ST imo. Pass then 5♠ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Assuming pard would dbl 2NT with a clear dbl of one of their suits, I'd now try 6♦. If I don't know anything about pard's tendencies... well, pass + pass, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 5♠. I have no idea if it's a close call or not, I don't believe I have ever held a 3073 hand of this strength on this auction. I do believe however that bidding at all shows plenty of offense, so I am not particularly worried that I am failing to show my hand. Doesn't a forcing pass, then pulling partner's double show more offense? 5♠ immeadiately is not a ST imo. Pass then 5♠ for me. Bidding 5♠, whether preceeded by a forcing pass or not, shows a lot of offense. Obviously passing first is simply stronger than bidding right away. I agree 5♠ is not defined as a slam try, although partner can often bid slam over it since it shows I think we are likely to make 11 tricks. FWIW I don't pass first because I have only three spades, which makes the void less valuable and makes it a lot harder to deal with the bad breaks we are likely to receive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 People are REALLY overestimating the power of this hand imo. Sure if we can stop clubs and pull trumps and run diamonds everything is all fine and dandy, but if we cant pull trumps (and trumps will often break badly) then there is significant risk after a heart lead ruffed that we can't really do anything. If we play the trumps then they can get in and cash some hearts, if we don't play the trumps then they can either keep pounding hearts or just play diamonds killing the dummy, etc. Also it's not like our diamonds are solid, anything can happen there. We might either lose a trick to the DQ, or partner might have a stiff diamond which would be a disaster for our hand (though unlikely on the auction). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 5♠, and I don't think it's very close. To me this hand isn't worth pass-and-pull. True, we might make a slam or even a grand, but there's no certainty we'll make even 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Deleted - sorry, wrong thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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