xcurt Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 OK, so you are playing XIMPS with a pickup expert on BBO and your agreements are "sayc." Of course, you immediately get a hand where this "system" leaves you, well, screwed. Vul vs not, you deal, opponents don't bid. ♠AQxxx, ♥AKQ, ♦xx, ♣Kxx. 1♠-2♥ (no idea how "forcing" this is)? Let's say you aren't confident 3♥ won't be passed, and 4♥ is just wimpy, and Blackwood, well, when is the Blacke ever the solution, so you temporize with 3♣ (this is what I did). 1♠-2♥ (no idea how "forcing" this is)3♣-5♣ ???!!???? What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 For some reason I can't figure out, I'm really tempted to make the crazy, stupid, creative 5♦ cue hoping to discourage a diamond lead. But since that is bad I think I just bid 6♥. Anything between 10 and 13 tricks in hearts seems possible, so why bet on exactly 11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Prefer just bidding rkc in this given situation over 2h. I am going to win or lose in the play/defense anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 3♥ the first time. Its bad for your game if you bid to compensate for your partner’s shortcomings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I really don't like 3♣ because it shows a distribution you don't have.Don't blame partner if he bids a slam/grand based on your obvious ♦ single and/or ♣ length. Your 3♣ bid also devalues your partners 5♣ answer (we might not even have a fit), but he must be short in ♠ (no support) and unbalanced (since he did not try 3NT). He can't have much values in ♠ (no cards) or ♥, so there have to be values in the minors.You will have to bid 6♥ now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 6♥ picturing my ♦ shortness :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 The practical bid over 2♥ is 4NT. After 5♣, I guess 6♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 6♥ picturing my ♦ shortness :) Ditto. Remember your hand as AQxxx AKQx x Kxx :P. 6♥ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Followup: So I figured partner couldn't have any worse than ♦A, ♣AQxxx (which is the point of the first part of this thread -- nobody knows what a 2/1 promises in SAYC). If partner had more lower diamond honors or worse clubs I would have expected him to bid 3NT not raise clubs. I was pretty close, partner had ♠-, ♥8xxxx, ♦AKx, ♣AJTxx. Trumps are 3-2, so 6♥ is a nice spot. Problem is, I bid an animal 7♥ over 5♣. You get a lowish spade spot lead against 7♥. Plan the play. [hv=n=saqxxxhakqdxxckxx&s=sh8xxxxdakxcajtxx]133|200|[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Followup: So I figured partner couldn't have any worse than ♦A, ♣AQxxx (which is the point of the first part of this thread -- nobody knows what a 2/1 promises in SAYC). If partner had more lower diamond honors or worse clubs I would have expected him to bid 3NT not raise clubs. I was pretty close, partner had ♠-, ♥8xxxx, ♦AKx, ♣AJTxx. Trumps are 3-2, so 6♥ is a nice spot. Problem is, I bid an animal 7♥ over 5♣. You get a lowish spade spot lead against 7♥. Plan the play. [hv=n=saqxxxhakqdxxckxx&s=sh8xxxxdakxcajtxx]133|200|[/hv] I'm not a genius, I'm just going to win in dummy, draw trumps, and play a club to my J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm going to consider using my winnings from this hand to buy a book on bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 After consifering some dummy reversal & squeezes I can see nothing better than roger's line. You can tr ♠Q at trick 1 almost for free though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Followup: Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ AQxxx ♥ AKQ ♦ xx ♣ Kxx ♠ [space] ♥ 8xxxx ♦ AKx ♣ AJTxx I'm not a genius, I'm just going to win in dummy, draw trumps, and play a club to my J. This works. Drawing trumps, ruffing a spade, and playing a club to the king and then to the jack does not work, however, since clubs were onside 4-1 (which is the point of the play problem -- 4-1 onside is more likely than 4 small onside and stiff Q offside). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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