patchesp11 Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 My wife and I have played infrequently and casually for years and enjoy bridge. Recently we have been playing and reading more with the goal of building a foundation from which we can make steady progression in our bridge skills We would like to understand the 2/1 approach and my question is are there recommended articles etc. on the internet that would explain the very basics including which suits to bid given varying or identical lengths, response etc. Also we will be playing both rubber and duplicate and is 2/1 suitable for both. Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 2/1 can be played in either situation, but in rubber, if you are switching partners frequently as is common, in many cases you will find your partner doesn't know how to play 2/1. Also it was really developed intended for duplicate, it doesn't take into account partials at rubber. Serious players all play duplicate almost exclusively, as money rubber bridge clubs have mostly died off, so bidding theory focuses there; I've never seen any advanced book on rubber strategy. Paging Zia! :) For 2/1 you might try Mike Lawrence's workbook or CD, or perhaps Hardy's "Advanced Bidding for the 21st century". However since you are still asking what suit to bid given varying lengths, that suggests that you may not quite be ready for those yet. You probably want to start with Root's "Commonsense Bidding" combined with his "Modern Bridge Conventions". "Commonsense" is rather dated in that it has old fashioned strong twos, no transfers, forcing jump raises, no neg doubles, but it is solid otherwise, and the "one-star" conventions in MBC will cover almost all the stuff that's ubiquitous now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilgan Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I'd recommend the book "25 steps to learning 2/1" by Paul Thurston. Its very reader friendly, and does a good job introducing people to the basic 2/1 system. Amazon listing I'm not sure how rubber bridge friendly 2/1 is, but my rubber bridge knowledge is sketchy at best. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I don't think 2/1 would be a great system at rubber bridge. Suppose you have 60 above. Do we really want our 2/1 to be game forcing? I've always played that when you bid above game (meaning above any contract where together with our partial we make game), then you are making a slam try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 I think Echognome means 60 below.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 There is a good series of articles on 2/1 by Eric Rodwell on the website Betterbridge.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRWTAHOE Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 patchesSp11 You have a very ligitament concern. Rather than post a solution to your concerns in this public forum, as you will get a slew of solutions which will convolute your goal, I would suggest you contact one person whom you might respect as to helping you and your wife to reach a satisfactory goal. If you wish to contact me, I would help in this matter. It's no skin off your back if you would like to chat about it. jpdad@comcast.netDon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharon j Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 this is a good site to learn the basics of 2/1. www.home.comcast.net After learning the basics of SAYC, this site helped me with the basics of 2/1. Then you can add the gadgets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 patchesSp11 You have a very ligitament concern. Rather than post a solution to your concerns in this public forum, as you will get a slew of solutions which will convolute your goal, I would suggest you contact one person whom you might respect as to helping you and your wife to reach a satisfactory goal. If you wish to contact me, I would help in this matter. It's no skin off your back if you would like to chat about it. jpdad@comcast.netDon I work for a quality law firm specializing in eminent domain, and I deal in rare boxing memorabilia. Please let me know if I can be of any help, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper10 Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 When I was at a tournament a year ago I asked the fellow with the bridge library the same question. He recommended a book: Standard Bridge Bidding for the 21st Century by Max Hardy. It is 2/1 and more. This is the beginning book and I find it very tough. You can use 2/1 for any kind of bridge -- party or duplicate. Best, Casper10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rona_ Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 patchesSp11 You have a very ligitament concern. Rather than post a solution to your concerns in this public forum, as you will get a slew of solutions which will convolute your goal, I would suggest you contact one person whom you might respect as to helping you and your wife to reach a satisfactory goal. If you wish to contact me, I would help in this matter. It's no skin off your back if you would like to chat about it. jpdad@comcast.netDon I work for a quality law firm specializing in eminent domain, and I deal in rare boxing memorabilia. Please let me know if I can be of any help, too.ROFL. Patches, contrary to what some might think or say here, this is probably the best place to get advice. Rona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas_P Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Caitlin is teaching the transition from SAYC to 2/1 on Tuesdays in BBO_IAC if you're interested. http://pigpen.org.uk/IAC/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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