Handviewer

H_KARLUK · February 14, 2009

It worked. I really liked it. Anyways I'll work out more.

Just click and here's my 1st try :) Tx BBO ♥

xx1943 · February 15, 2009

Can any bloggers out there report any success/ failures inserting hands via iframes using:

...

nickf
sydney

I had no problem in using the handviewer in a blog

You just need a blog which allows to write direct HTML

blog

For example the above post in the source code:

This hand I played in a BBO-team-match. And I misdefended.

Click on my nick to show only my hand and dummy's.

Right-click the diagram and choose "hide played cards".

Click on "next" for every trick to see how the play went.

Do you see where I made the mistake?

After winning the diamond J it was mandatory to cash diamond A. THough partners lenght signals in the minors were wrong, I should know that declarer's distribution is 4423 and partner holds both minor Ks.

xx1943 · February 15, 2009

Ive just saved some lin files from myhands and uploaded them to a teaching table.
Ive found the orientation is wrong, North is dealer each time when it should have been E,W,S

Not sure if this is a myhands problem or user error.

That is an old problem the teaching table ignores the the setting of of dealer in the lin-file tag md|x.....| where x = 1,2,3,4 for S W N E stands.

The teching table sets the dealer according to the information in the qx|| tag, where the boardnumber is strored.

Fred told me by a mail, that the BBO-Windows version will not updated any more, but that he plans to integrate teaching-tables in the flash version and then he'll consider the suggestions of improving teaching tables.

G_R__E_G · February 18, 2009

I've completed a new version of my Hand Creator. It now does everything. Bid explanations go to the right of bids, the annotations go underneath.

I have not put any protection on, so you'll need to be careful what you erase.

In the near future I'm planning on only allowing access to the cells that the user needs access to and I'm also thinking about changing how the auction and play gets entered (something more user friendly). I'm not sure when I'll get to these changes.

Enjoy!

Hand Creator

PS I'm always open to any suggestions for changes.

matmat · February 19, 2009

Hi. If this is a repeat of a request somewhere above, I apologize.

Is there any way that the forums software could be persuaded to allow iframes or SSI or something similar? it would be REALLY awesome if we could see the handviewer things in the messages instead of having to click through and have it on this huge other page, not being able to see the hand and the post questions all at once.

This is really more of a question of hacking invision, i guess...

Gerardo · February 19, 2009

Yes. It would be harder to move from this (old) forum software, though, while keeping old (bridge) content readable.

Please see this thread

kfay · February 19, 2009

Let's say that I want to copy the 'movie' link from myhands and paste it into an AOL chat. How can I do that? I've tried right click 'copy shortcut' but when I paste the hand (link looks like http://online.bridgebase.com/tools/handvie...220-1231101012) it says '404 Not Found'

mtvesuvius · February 19, 2009

I love the Handviewer program! The only thing that I see is that when I post on BBF usuing handviewer, after a few days the auction disappears such as here, and then for another one it came back after a day or so. What causes this, and is there a fix?

uday · February 19, 2009

Let's say that I want to copy the 'movie' link from myhands and paste it into an AOL chat. How can I do that?

You did it properly. My bug. It should have been 'www.bridgebase.com' not online.bridgebase.com in the copied URL.

Try it again and it will work

uday

babalu1997 · February 21, 2009

I've completed a new version of my Hand Creator. It now does everything. Bid explanations go to the right of bids, the annotations go underneath.

I have not put any protection on, so you'll need to be careful what you erase.

In the near future I'm planning on only allowing access to the cells that the user needs access to and I'm also thinking about changing how the auction and play gets entered (something more user friendly). I'm not sure when I'll get to these changes.

Enjoy!

Hand Creator

PS I'm always open to any suggestions for changes.

Hello Greg

A stupid question here-- i tried downloading the file and it complains abitu security level and asks that i get some kind of certificate.

How can i waivr this to translate the hand viewer.

thanks

G_R__E_G · February 21, 2009

I've completed a new version of my Hand Creator. It now does everything. Bid explanations go to the right of bids, the annotations go underneath.

I have not put any protection on, so you'll need to be careful what you erase.

In the near future I'm planning on only allowing access to the cells that the user needs access to and I'm also thinking about changing how the auction and play gets entered (something more user friendly). I'm not sure when I'll get to these changes.

Enjoy!

Hand Creator

PS I'm always open to any suggestions for changes.
Hello Greg

A stupid question here-- i tried downloading the file and it complains abitu security level and asks that i get some kind of certificate.

How can i waivr this to translate the hand viewer.

thanks

You must be on Vista which I'm not overly familiar with. You should be able to view the certificate and it should let you continue after that. Hopefully some Vista experts can be a little more helpful.

fred · February 21, 2009

Greg,

I don't want to discourage you from the work you are doing, but I thought you should know that the next version of the BBO web-client will contain a graphical authoring tool for creating Handviewer links with appropriate parameters (including annotations).

It will also allow the user to convert any movie of a completed deal to a Handviewer link, to send these links to other members as BBO mail, etc...

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

G_R__E_G · February 23, 2009

Greg,

I don't want to discourage you from the work you are doing, but I thought you should know that the next version of the BBO web-client will contain a graphical authoring tool for creating Handviewer links with appropriate parameters (including annotations).

It will also allow the user to convert any movie of a completed deal to a Handviewer link, to send these links to other members as BBO mail, etc...

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

No worries Fred - I haven't invested much time in it. I'm looking forward to the future release.

y66 · April 1, 2009

For the wishlist ...

Hide/show auction or let user step thru auction -- I would use this feature a lot to work out possible auctions and compare with actuals.

Let users tag and save to local my favorites or global favorites (like starring in Chrome and google groups). Would love to see commentators' favorites from big tournaments, like the hand Roland recently posted from the Vanderbilt and Philip Alder 'reposted' to the NY Times.

y66 · April 9, 2009

I see that handviewer has GIB now. Nice.

A2003 · April 9, 2009

Suggestion:

Suggest to add last update date and time to the hand viewer documentation.

That way it is clear that this is the latest document.

Handviewer Documents

A2003 · April 11, 2009

This is cool!. I was able to send this thru email.

Is it normal, when I include the comments with in {.…...}, it converts all the spaces to "%20".

Another bridge hand

I have the entire hand play included in this, but for some reason it is not showing up in this thread.

But it shows up when I cut and paste in the web address.

barmar · April 11, 2009

%20 is the proper way to represent spaces in URLs.

y66 · April 11, 2009

This is cool!. I was able to send this thru email.
Is it normal, when I include the comments with in {.…...}, it converts all the spaces to "%20".

Another bridge hand

I have the entire hand play included in this, but for some reason it is not showing up in this thread.
But it shows up when I cut and paste in the web address.

I think there's a bug in the forum software's word wrap function that's putting an unwanted end of line character in your embedded link which causes hand viewer to gag. When I quote your post and click on the embedded link in <Preview Post> I can step through the play.

Congrats to you and your team mates btw. :)

A2003 · April 11, 2009

This is cool!. I was able to send this thru email.
Is it normal, when I include the comments with in {.…...}, it converts all the spaces to "%20".

Another bridge hand

I have the entire hand play included in this, but for some reason it is not showing up in this thread.
But it shows up when I cut and paste in the web address.
I think there's a bug in the forum software's word wrap function that's putting an unwanted end of line character in your embedded link which causes hand viewer to gag. When I quote your post and click on the embedded link in <Preview Post> I can step through the play.

Congrats to you and your team mates btw. :)

I see that.

when I quote the message, it works in the "Preview Post" mode, when I post the message, it does not work in the forum.

nigulh · April 14, 2009

I recently found handviewer is a great tool for including bridge diagrams in my blog. However, now I have about 10 hands and 1 full deal in the main page, it takes about 45 seconds to reload the main page. So my problem is that: Handviewer is slow!

How to solve that problem? Is there any way to cache non-interactive handviewer images just like real images are cached? Or maybe it should be possible to get "real" images from handviewer? (I am not talking about interactive deals, where you show the full deal).

Finally a request: There could be a '?' bid available to create bidding problems.

fred · April 15, 2009

I recently found handviewer is a great tool for including bridge diagrams in my blog. However, now I have about 10 hands and 1 full deal in the main page, it takes about 45 seconds to reload the main page. So my problem is that: Handviewer is slow!

How to solve that problem? Is there any way to cache non-interactive handviewer images just like real images are cached? Or maybe it should be possible to get "real" images from handviewer? (I am not talking about interactive deals, where you show the full deal).

Finally a request: There could be a '?' bid available to create bidding problems.

Hi Nigel,

I am not sure what (if anything) I can do about the speed. Can you let me know the URL for your blog and I will check it out?

The ? thing should work. Just make it the character of the a parameter. Let me know if you run into trouble.

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

nigulh · April 16, 2009

Thank you, Fred, for your answer.

Unfortunately I dont see any question mark if i click this link at http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?a=1s2hp?2s

Now, there is no question mark between Pass and 2♠ (deleting 2♠ does not put the "?" for last bid either).

My blog is at uperkuut (in Estonian). Recently some posts do not use handviewer any more, but previous ones do.

I am sure something can be done to improve the speed issue (but it might require a lot of work, so not worth it). As I don't know the inner world of handviewer, i cannot tell, what is practical, what not. Also, I have no idea, why and where this 3-4 seconds per handviewer request is spent.

My idea:

Output .jpg image instead of flash for non-interactive requests. So browsers can cahce it, and reloading is (much) faster. (This is good whenever "inline" tag is used with height and width specified anyway. The height and width can be part of the image URL).

fred · April 16, 2009

Thank you, Fred, for your answer.

Unfortunately I dont see any question mark if i click this link at http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?a=1s2hp?2s

Now, there is no question mark between Pass and 2♠ (deleting 2♠ does not put the "?" for last bid either).

My blog is at uperkuut (in Estonian). Recently some posts do not use handviewer any more, but previous ones do.

I am sure something can be done to improve the speed issue (but it might require a lot of work, so not worth it). As I don't know the inner world of handviewer, i cannot tell, what is practical, what not. Also, I have no idea, why and where this 3-4 seconds per handviewer request is spent.

My idea:
Output .jpg image instead of flash for non-interactive requests. So browsers can cahce it, and reloading is (much) faster. (This is good whenever "inline" tag is used with height and width specified anyway. The height and width can be part of the image URL).

The page loads very quickly for me, Nigul, but I am using a fast PC and a fast Internet connection (and Internet Explorer though I doubt this matters). Is it possible the problem is related to your PC or your connection? Do you know for sure that other people are experiencing the same problem?

About the ? thing, it works but the Forums software strips the ? at the end of the URL. Maybe your blog authoring software does something similar?

Output to an image file is a nice idea and probably there are programs that exist that do all the hard work (so that I won't have to write my own program). At some point I will invesigate, but this may not happen for a while.

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

nigulh · April 16, 2009

My computer is 2.2GHz, and internet speed is 1Mbit/s. Loading of http://uperkuut.blogspot.com takes right now about 40 seconds. And most of the time is due to handviewer. Loading a single post without handviwer images takes 3 seconds, with 4 handviewer images takes 20 seconds.

And speed issue is not only my problem. My friends (in Estonia) are experiencing the same problem.

The ? problem is not a forum problem (for me), as I can type the URL into browser address line directly. Could you post a working link including auction with "?" (or describe how to modify the link to get it working, if forum eats some symbols)?

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