gnasher Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hey cool. Isn't this one of those hands where if they lead a club against 4♠ you should duck it? No, it isn't. If you duck the first club they will switch to hearts. Then if you try to draw trumps they will force the long hand and you will usually need trumps 3-3. The simple line of ♣A, ♣ ruff, ♠10 is better. They will duck the first trump and take the second, then play more clubs. You make if spades are 3-3 or clubs 4-4. Edit: I see that half the world spotted this at the same time as I did. Shouldn't you lot be in bed by now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Anyway it's not clear since they can switch to hearts and you risk being tapped there too. But I still think its the right play, you can duck the first heart as well and hope two rounds of diamonds stand up for a crossruff. I think. So you duck a club, and then you duck a heart, and then you crossruff, scoring two aces, two diamonds, three trumps in hand, and two club ruffs in dummy. How many tricks is that? The duck of the club doesn't just concede a tempo; it also wastes one of the small clubs that you needed to for your crossruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Anyway it's not clear since they can switch to hearts and you risk being tapped there too. But I still think its the right play, you can duck the first heart as well and hope two rounds of diamonds stand up for a crossruff. I think. So you duck a clubs, and then you duck a heart, and then you crossruff, scoring two aces, two diamonds, three trumps in hand, and two club ruffs in dummy. How many tricks is that? The duck of the club doesn't just concede a tempo; it also wastes one of the small clubs that you needed to for your crossruff.[hv=d=e&v=n&n=skqj5h64dj96ca764&w=sa94hkq32dt4cqt93&e=s762hjt7d732ck852&s=st83ha985dakq85cj]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Hmm,1-♣3,4,K,J2-♥J,A,3,43-♠T,A,5,24-♥K,6,7,55-♣9,A,8,♠36-♠8 +620 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hmm,1-♣3,4,K,J2-♥J,A,3,43-♠T,A,5,24-♥K,6,7,55-♣9,A,8,♠36-♠8 +620 The question of how to play the hand given that trumps are 3-3 isn't very interesting. If trumps are 3-3, almost any line will work. What we are discussing is how to play the hand single dummy, given that at trick 1 we don't know how trumps are breaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Anyway it's not clear since they can switch to hearts and you risk being tapped there too. But I still think its the right play, you can duck the first heart as well and hope two rounds of diamonds stand up for a crossruff. I think. So you duck a club, and then you duck a heart, and then you crossruff, scoring two aces, two diamonds, three trumps in hand, and two club ruffs in dummy. How many tricks is that? The duck of the club doesn't just concede a tempo; it also wastes one of the small clubs that you needed to for your crossruff. That is very true. I am impressed with myself that simply by mentioning it I got several to agree before being corrected though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hey I said it before gnasher! Josh will never give me the satisfaction :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hey I said it before gnasher! Josh will never give me the satisfaction :( He told me why I was dumb (that I needed my small club so I could ruff it) so he is the one I acknowledged. No satisfaction for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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