H_KARLUK Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=st83ha985dakq85cj]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] P1♦ P 1♠ P2♦ P 3♦ P ? Sys 2/1 - you can add/remove any gadget whatever you like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 3♥. Trying to get responder to bid 3N with some ♣ stuff. Playing 2/1 (especially) 3♦ shows a fairly decent hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosene Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I go back and bid 2♠ at my 2nd turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I go back and bid 2♠ at my 2nd turn. Agree. I would prefer to have a higher honor than the 10 for my 3 card raise, but any other bid is just too much of a misdescription of my hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Easy raise to 2♠ instead of 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I go back and bid 2♠ at my 2nd turn. I agree. However, given that we made this mistake, I'll bid 3♠... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 can I rebid 2s and not 2d? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I go back and bid 2♠ at my 2nd turn.No you dont B) :P LAW 25 - LEGAL AND ILLEGAL CHANGES OF CALLA. Immediate Correction of InadvertencyUntil his partner makes a call, a player may substitute his intended call for aninadvertent call but only if he does so, or attempts to do so, without pause forthought. If legal, his last call stands without penalty; if illegal, it is subject tothe applicable Law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 This just shows one of several good reasons for raising 1♠ to 2♠. As it is, I reluctantly bid 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 2♠. Having bid 2♦, I think I have to bid 3♥. I made a mistake, but I cannot leave partner in the dark as to my rounded suits. If partner bids 3♠ over 3♥, I'll of course raise. I think the 3♠ bidders are being stubborn. 2♠ was right, but 3♠ after that bad call is wrong, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I want to add the gadget from another world: Three Card Raises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 3♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 3♠ is the canonical way to fish back the 5-3 spade fit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 [hv=d=e&v=n&n=skqj5h64dj96ca764&w=sa94hkq32dt4cqt93&e=s762hjt7d732ck852&s=st83ha985dakq85cj]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hey cool. Isn't this one of those hands where if they lead a club against 4♠ you should duck it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hey cool. Isn't this one of those hands where if they lead a club against 4♠ you should duck it? Yes, looks like it... 3NT is an easy make, and 4♠ makes here too... At IMPs 3NT is MUCH safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hey cool. Isn't this one of those hands where if they lead a club against 4♠ you should duck it? Yes, looks like it... 3NT is an easy make, and 4♠ makes here too... At IMPs 3NT is MUCH safer. Really? You needed 4-4 clubs. You can't even afford to duck two rounds if they are 5-3 since they could then switch to hearts and almost always beat you. I think 3NT is a lot worse than you think, quite likely worse than 4♠ although that is hard to analyze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 [hv=d=e&v=n&n=skqj5h64dj96ca764&w=sa94hkq32dt4cqt93&e=s762hjt7d732ck852&s=st83ha985dakq85cj]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Hey cool. Isn't this one of those hands where if they lead a club against 4♠ you should duck it?Hmm, maybe you also check. I do not see any intricateness. Anyway please count me as an amateur who derives satisfaction "trying" to solve double dummy problems in long years. Say ♣ led vs 4♠ :♣A, I think then best move is another ♣ and ruff at table.♠T now. At first sight seems worths to cover with A. Another ♠. And clears trumps. Declarer pitches a ♥ at table. How about another trump?I think East pitches a low ♥. Declarer also pitches a low ♥. Surely West may join to th fiesta.A heart to Ace then diamonds.Did I count wrong ? West and East each seperately restricted to get a trick. So +1. Say ♠ led vs 4 ♠ :West cashes A 2nd round, exists with another ♠. Declarer pulls last trump. All discards low ♥.I think declarer can safely play A and another ♥. Say West allows to East win this trick. I do not see any damage for declarer to any defense. No matter ♣ or ♦ switched. So West takes 2, East takes 1 trick. I am sorry if i skipped any detail. For sure I am open to reply any variant "if" anybody wishes to analyze too. SincerelyHamdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I would follow the multitude and bid 2S. Having misbid this far, i bid 3S now.Yes, duck the first C. Nice hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hey cool. Isn't this one of those hands where if they lead a club against 4♠ you should duck it? Yes I think so too. This is a theme that seems to come up around once a year, if you play a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hey cool. Isn't this one of those hands where if they lead a club against 4♠ you should duck it?Hmm, maybe you also check. I do not see any intricateness. Anyway please count me as an amateur who derives satisfaction "trying" to solve double dummy problems in long years. Obviously you don't have to duck a club lead when spades are 3-3. I meant what is the right play single dummy. Imagine if spades were 4-2... Anyway it's not clear since they can switch to hearts and you risk being tapped there too. But I still think its the right play, you can duck the first heart as well and hope two rounds of diamonds stand up for a crossruff. I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hey cool. Isn't this one of those hands where if they lead a club against 4♠ you should duck it?Hmm, maybe you also check. I do not see any intricateness. Anyway please count me as an amateur who derives satisfaction "trying" to solve double dummy problems in long years. Obviously you don't have to duck a club lead when spades are 3-3. I meant what is the right play single dummy. Imagine if spades were 4-2... Anyway it's not clear since they can switch to hearts and you risk being tapped there too. But I still think its the right play, you can duck the first heart as well and hope two rounds of diamonds stand up for a crossruff. I think. The opps could shift to a heart at trick 2 if spades are 42. If they are always defending correctly then the "best" line is a simple ace of clubs, club ruff, ten of spades, spade. You make now on 33 spades or 44 clubs and 42 spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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