mtvesuvius Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 I just had an odd thought... If your opponent opens 7♠, how profitable will it be to sac. 7NT? How often will 7NT make?... I ran a simulation on 2500 deals: # of Tricks:<7: 1447: 1598: 2129: 26710: 43311: 57812: 49513: 212 Ave. tricks per deal: 10.1432 Any thoughts regarding this? Vulnerbility matters here, I guess :). ofc I am assuming that the ♠ hand is not on lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 This is why I play 7S p p X as takeout. Partner bids 7N and you make because the void is on lead, and 7S was cold because their hand was 13 solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeac Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 This is why I play 7S p p X as takeout. Partner bids 7N and you make because the void is on lead, and 7S was cold because their hand was 13 solid. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I think you need to discuss this deeply in any serious partnership. When you cannot handle this everyday problem, you will gift them millions of imps each session. I think JLOLs approach is not deep enough. We play pass/double inversion here., which seems to be superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 uhhh lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 What do you open in 1st seat looking at AKQJ1098765AAA ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 What do you open in 1st seat looking at AKQJ1098765AAA ? at imps i would open 7 spades against adam kaplan but 7n against everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomi2 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 This is why I play 7S p p X as takeout. Partner bids 7N and you make because the void is on lead, and 7S was cold because their hand was 13 solid. and i thought I was the only one, who agreed this (with my former junoir partner)Bad luck that there was no such hand at the last european championships :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I know... This was based on a player having 13♠. A more realistic sim would be based on any hand that would open 7♠, but how should I set this up? Anyway, I just thought is was a cool idea, but I'm sorta going around in circles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 What do you open in 1st seat looking at AKQJ1098765AAA ? Against mtvesuvius or JLOL and their takeout doubles, I think I open 7♠, against everyone else 7N. 7♠ gives up a little upside at MPs, but wins when instead you defend 7NX-13 for +3500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I know... This was based on a player having 13♠. A more realistic sim would be based on any hand that would open 7♠, but how should I set this up?Of course there's no normal reason not to open 7NT with 13 top tricks, so if you open 7♠ you must have lots of solid (enough) spades and a void. You might have a side suit you think will come in too, like 8 solid + AKQTx or something. The problem with the 7NT sac is that almost all hands opening a reasonable 7♠ will have ~2 outside suits controlled too (double voids are quite rare). So the defense, even when the 7♠ bidder isn't on lead, only has to hit one of his outside A's to clobber 7N. Sadly, you can't afford to use the X of 7NT by slam bidder to direct lead since if you were making 7♠, you can't afford to defend 7N undoubled even at favorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 What do you open in 1st seat looking at AKQJ1098765AAA ? If you want to play this hand 7♠ in it is safer to play a 7♥ opening as Verdi, since if opps can start with a ruff from the ♠42 holding there is a chance that they are slugish and ruff with the 2 and p who is also void in the suit of the opening lead can overruff with the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I did have this hand recently: AKJ9xxx---AKQxxx--- Very close to a 7♠ opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy_Scot Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 This is why I play 7S p p X as takeout. Partner bids 7N and you make because the void is on lead, and 7S was cold because their hand was 13 solid.ROFLMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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