vuroth Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 The bidding goes:1♠ P 2♠ PP ? What's the weakest hand you would bid on with: ♠ ?♥ ????♦ ????♣ ???? or ♠ ??♥ ???♦ ???♣ ????? At the club yesterday, I pushed a pair to 4♠ by bidding once at the 3 level (!). It was unmakeable, so all was good, but I'm not convinced my bid was correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 The bidding goes:1♠ P 2♠ PP ? What's the weakest hand you would bid on with: ♠ ?♥ ????♦ ????♣ ???? or ♠ ??♥ ???♦ ???♣ ????? At the club yesterday, I pushed a pair to 4♠ by bidding once at the 3 level (!). It was unmakeable, so all was good, but I'm not convinced my bid was correct. 1. Depends on opponents. If I am confident that they will not underbid, then I might bid on x xxxx xxxx xxxx :). However I think that is a losing strategy. I think at least 1 defensive trick is needed here. 2. I better be pretty good here. If I will balance with 3♣, it should have some playing strength... Maybe just under a 2♣ overcall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 With 1444 it is almost an automatic balance even red against white. Partner, with a reasonable hand, cannot act as partner has length in their suit. I might not balance with less than 7 HCP. On the auction 1M - P - 2M - P - P - ?, you strain to balance. You rarely get an average or better score by letting them play in 2 of a major on that auction. On the second hand, partner is not marked with as much length in their suit. So partner might have been able to act with a good hand or a long suit, but did not. So balancing is not as clear as the first case. But partner needs a good hand to act directly over 2♠, as opener is unlimited until he passes. And, again, you rarely get a good score by passing out 2♠ in this auction. So you still strain to balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted January 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 At the table, I bid 3 clubs with: xxJxxKxxQJxxx I'm nearly positive that we were NV. Not so sure who the dealer was, though. Somehow, this pushed opponents into a non-making 4♠. None of this gave me a clue whether or not my bid was right, aggressive, or insane. Fwiw, this was my first game against serious club competition in over 6 years, and I was mighty intimidated. As it turned out, this particular pair might not have been A listers (nothing against them, but 4♠ took my by surprise for sure). V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 With 1444 it is almost an automatic balance even red against white. Partner, with a reasonable hand, cannot act as partner has length in their suit. I might not balance with less than 7 HCP. On the auction 1M - P - 2M - P - P - ?, you strain to balance. You rarely get an average or better score by letting them play in 2 of a major on that auction. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 LOL He's back... Thank god! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 LOL He's back... Thank god! :) Yes. His comments are so informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Just out of idle curiosity, I'm going to see what my matchpoint score is on the auction 1M-2M (unopposed) over the next few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Is 3C right, aggressive or insane? I vote for insane. Not sure where the tipping point is for merely aggressive. Perhaps a king more and some spots, not vul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 In each case I'd say it's about a king lighter than a direct action. So for a double with 1444 shape I need about 7 hcp and for a 3♣ bid (or double) on 2335 I need about 8 hcp with six clubs or 10 with five clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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