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Yes, it is possible; I won't post it in case people want to have a go, but there is a fairly well-known construction where (hint hidden)

the defenders can cash the first eight tricks against any contract.

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I once had a deal where, based on the deep finesse analysis posted on the hand record as well as my own analysis with a friend, NS were cold for exactly 9 tricks but no more in all five strains. I really wish I had saved it.

Sometimes in DF, there is strain not mentioned because the other side with the lead advantage can negate 7 tricks. I don't know if I've seen this for more than 1-2 strains, but it would be fun to try.

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Yes, it is possible; I won't post it in case people want to have a go, but there is a fairly well-known construction where (hint hidden)

the defenders can cash the first eight tricks against any contract.

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How can a defender cash 8 tricks against any contract (except NT I suppose) but not make anything his way?

 

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Yes, it is possible; I won't post it in case people want to have a go, but there is a fairly well-known construction where (hint hidden)

the defenders can cash the first eight tricks against any contract.

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How can a defender cash 8 tricks against any contract (except NT I suppose) but not make anything his way?

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I didn't say "a defender", I said "the defenders" ...

 

 

(hmm, these "hidden" discussions get a little silly after a while, don't they? :) )

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If neither NS nor EW can make any contract, will the par score of that deal be 0?

Yes. Conversely, if someone can make a contract the par score is not 0, but either the score of the best contract, or the cheapest sacrifice against the best contract. (Or, if 4NT= by NS is the best contract but 5 by NS makes as well while 5 by EW is a good sac against 4NT, the par score is 5 by NS).

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Thomas Andrew has found a number of hands where no one can make any contract according to double dummy analysis. I believe they have a common theme based on the fact that the opponent gets to make the opening lead. I no longer have the site bookmarked because of crashes and new computers but I will when I leave this site. Search for thomaso to find the site. There are a lot of interesting things there including hands where your best results occur when playing in a 4-2 or 3-3 trump fit. He also has a free bridge dealer program.
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par 0 doesn't look hard, what about both sides making 1NT due to not being endplayed on the lead?

 

This might be easy with 7-6s all around, but on regular hands I don't know if its possible.

That's not hard either. But what I also wonder if there are hands that don't have a par score. Your example of every side making 1NT is interesting, especially if everyone is vulnerable. Then what's the par score if every 2-level contract is defeated? Does such hand exist?

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par 0 doesn't look hard, what about both sides making 1NT due to not being endplayed on the lead?

 

This might be easy with 7-6s all around, but on regular hands I don't know if its possible.

That's not hard either. But what I also wonder if there are hands that don't have a par score. Your example of every side making 1NT is interesting, especially if everyone is vulnerable. Then what's the par score if every 2-level contract is defeated? Does such hand exist?

see the first deal in http://www.rpbridge.net/8k03.htm for an example for everyside making 1nt, but none of the 2level contracts make. As long as the dealer is fixed, there is always a par score.

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