Ingberman over Reverses

[awm]

What's your understanding of Ingberman? I recently noticed that what I thought this convention was about (which seems to match Mikeh's definition also) is different from how it's explained in a popular book of conventions.

[Fluffy]

We don't use this name here, French call it '2NT moderateur', a name spannish have adopted. It would fit your second definition.

[jdonn]

I understand it as your third option, differing from your second option which is lebensohl (and thus your option 2 and 4 are the same thing.)

[fred]

A long time ago in the galaxy far far away where I learned to play bridge, the name Ingerberman was widely used to refer to 2NT as an artificial negative over reverses. You used to hear this name a lot then - even strong club players knew what it meant.

 

I just reread what I typed above. By "strong club players" I meant above average players in a typical bridge club, but the other interpretation is kind of amusing :P

 

At that time, if anyone in my galaxy had figured out that it was better to play the cheaper of 2NT and 4th suit as negative, it was a relatively well-kept secret.

 

Assuming the early voting reflects current popular opinion, the accepted meaning of the name Ingerberman has changed since that time. I am quite sure that in the original version 4th suit was not involved.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

[blackshoe]

Assuming the early voting reflects current popular opinion, the accepted meaning of the name Ingerberman has changed since that time. I am quite sure that in the original version 4th suit was not involved.

This is why explaining the meaning of a call by naming a convention is deprecated.

[InTime]

I am quite sure that in the original version 4th suit was not involved.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

I agree with this. If you Google "Ingberman in Bridge" you will see that the 4th suit was not included in the original definition.

[RichMor]

This could be a regional variation. 'Lebensohl over reverses' is a term I have heard for many years. Ingberman is not.

 

I live in the north central US.

[Trinidad]

When I was a beginning bridge player, I lived in the USA. After a few years, I went to an NABC. (I think it was the 1996 fall NABC in San Francisco.) Ron Andersen held a Beginner/Intermediate lecture about the use of Lebensohl. (Not strange since he was the author of 'Lebensohl complete'.) He told his audience (which included me and my partner) that you could play Lebensohl after reverses. He also mentioned that this Lebensohl variation was called "Ingberman" in some parts of the USA.

 

Rik