gwnn Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 KQ73AQT795832 First seat all vulnerable teams. Of course the question is "do you like a style where you open this?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Yes, but only because I play a 10-12 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Open this all the time, in any system, except perhaps Roth-Stone. This is because we want pard to put our majors in the board quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I'm not opening, because I've got the majors B) . I expect to be able to show them later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 If I can open 1H (or 1S) I open, if I have to open 1C I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 There are many hands where partner holds shape with very little in the way of values that will produce game. On those hand types it is very possible I will be able to act, some I will not, and we will regain a place in the auction. Those hands are also quite likely to be highly competitive and the opps are likely to bid a minor suit game. This hand is very close to pass or 1C using a 2/1 approach but could also lead to a poor result when partner takes a push bidding a major suit game because they over value Qxx of C on a marginal situation. Weak NT players will possibly start with 1N, close, and miss a 4-4 major fit and play a poor 1N rather than 2 of a major. I would pass even with 12-14 NT thinking I have gone for a number before with this very hand. I like to bid, but I also want partners to know when I do open I have a better reason than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Yep. But I will open almost any collection of trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I try to open all 12 point hands (4-4 in the majors is my 12th point :D). Not saying this is wise. Just haven't learned better (gotten killed enough) yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguelm Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 If this is passed out it doesn't necessarily mean you will get a bad result... and that is, I believe, the only downside of passing. Give me one more Major card and this is an opener everyday of the week :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Pass. When I open the bidding, my partners play me for an opening bid. I don't have one. Sure, I open a weak NT if I am playing a weak NT. But I don't play a weak NT vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I open, and I don't even consider myself a light opener. Many 13 counts that everyone would open are clearly not as useful as this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit35 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I've passed on 14-point hands before, but I'm bidding this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I open this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I would open it, I don't consider it a light opener, and I would not open it a 10-12 NT at matchpoints were I playing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 If I can open 1H (or 1S) I open, if I have to open 1C I pass. That's strangely backwards, IMO. I open this because I can open 1♣. IMO, there are reasons favoring a range spread of 11/12/13/14 for 1♣/1♦/1♥/1♠ respectively when there is rebid impurity or other problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Yes, this is a clear 1♣ opening to me. I'd always open it, but especially since we're able to invite and stop in 2M if partner holds a major and invitational strength. And we agree on this opening style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Absolutely YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Since we have a clear winner...for those who entered "Yes," how critical is it to your decision that the hand has both majors? If you switched the red suits, so the hand only had one major, would you still open it? If "Yes," again, how about if you switched both the red and the black suits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Open all the time when one of the 4 card suits is a major and the honor distribution is the same (all hcp in the main suits). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 There are a lot of 13HCP (or even more) hands that aren't NEARLY as good as this hand. For me, this is an opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Since we have a clear winner...for those who entered "Yes," how critical is it to your decision that the hand has both majors? If you switched the red suits, so the hand only had one major, would you still open it? If "Yes," again, how about if you switched both the red and the black suits? Yes, yes and yes. Like I said, I like to open light, and my partners know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 If I ever opened this it would only be because I have both majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Since we have a clear winner...for those who entered "Yes," how critical is it to your decision that the hand has both majors? If you switched the red suits, so the hand only had one major, would you still open it? If "Yes," again, how about if you switched both the red and the black suits? Yes, yes and yes. Like I said, I like to open light, and my partners know that. You know the old saying...an opening hand opposite an opening hand should produce a partscore bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Since we have a clear winner...for those who entered "Yes," how critical is it to your decision that the hand has both majors? If you switched the red suits, so the hand only had one major, would you still open it? If "Yes," again, how about if you switched both the red and the black suits? We do have a clear winner. The poll shows overwhelming support for not opening. Most of the posters open the bidding, but most of the poll respondents do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 There are a lot of 13HCP (or even more) hands that aren't NEARLY as good as this hand. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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